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Riots in the UK?
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RE: Riots in the UK?
(November 17, 2010 at 10:46 am)Cerrone Wrote:
(November 16, 2010 at 4:04 pm)theVOID Wrote: I agree, socialism is like going on a shopping spree in a nick-nakcs store... You get boring pointless shit you don't want or need and no chance of making your money back on it. You sound like you should be supporting the government on this one no? They're the ones who are fixing the spending blow outs. It always hurts to throw out the big investments that you've decades on but are bleeding you dry, but it's got to be done. The country just doesn't generate enough GDP to sustain those numbers, not these days with massive socio-economic shifts going on.

Supporting them doesnt even come into the equation, they're wasteful and incompetant and undeserving of the power they've -through no actual merit- accumulated. I'd say however, that to save our tax money they could stop dropping bombs in the middle east, stop sending poorly equiped soldiers out to get blown up in the middle east, and stop investing billions in the nuclear weapons program which is probably the most useless thing our little nation has got. Then with the trillions saved there we could reform the education system (most crucially), rebuild our energy plants to something which doesnt rely on external trade then let the rest of it fall nicely into place.

No actual merit? You don't think the opinion of the millions of British voters doesn't have merit?

And wasteful? Like fuck they are, they're cutting their spending rapidly! It's one thing to have an opinion, it's another thing to stare facts in the face and still make arguments despite them.

Are you under some illusion that these governments are inherently shit and some fella like you could take over and solve anything? It certainly seems like you are. That's usually a clear indicator that you don't actually have a fucking clue what the limits of government are. If it was possible to sort everything our in no time at all and keep everyone happy, have free services for all, low taxes AND a strong economy then there wouldn't be a single politician in the west who wouldn't do it. Too bad it's not so simple as that.

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(November 16, 2010 at 4:04 pm)theVOID Wrote: You say that like it would make a fucking difference who was in power right now.

Well there you go, certianly the three parties need hauling out of parliament by a meathook through the nose.

*facepaml* No... the world economy is on an IV and there isn't a fucking thing these 3 parties or any other party you could imagine could possibly to do remedy that in any short term solution. You want unemployment to do down then you need to grow the economy, and to do that you need to trim the deficit, make more assets exchangeable, cut spending and give businesses intensive to develop.

Quote:Actually i'm personally more inclined to do what Cromwell did and just take over by force, then hand over power to reformed local citizen councils that're actually comprised of people instead of politicians, and having a new "government" existing only in a vanguard capacity.

And these totally inexperienced amateurs will likely cock it up, it's not the 1600s any more, the society we live in is a far more complex system than the one that existed then, and as such it requires far more effort to maintain it. And that is if you manage to avoid having a bullet put through your face, which is really what you deserve for trying to bypassing democracy.

And politicians aren't people? Give me a fucking break.
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Riots in the UK? - by ib.me.ub - November 11, 2010 at 12:19 am
RE: Riots in the UK? - by Tiberius - November 11, 2010 at 4:13 am
RE: Riots in the UK? - by A Theist - November 11, 2010 at 6:36 am
RE: Riots in the UK? - by Skipper - November 11, 2010 at 9:10 am
RE: Riots in the UK? - by Minimalist - November 11, 2010 at 11:52 am
RE: Riots in the UK? - by Ashendant - November 11, 2010 at 9:37 pm
RE: Riots in the UK? - by Minimalist - November 11, 2010 at 10:16 pm
RE: Riots in the UK? - by Cerrone - November 12, 2010 at 8:15 am
RE: Riots in the UK? - by Skipper - November 12, 2010 at 4:56 pm
RE: Riots in the UK? - by Ashendant - November 12, 2010 at 10:35 am
RE: Riots in the UK? - by Tiberius - November 12, 2010 at 10:40 am
RE: Riots in the UK? - by Cerrone - November 13, 2010 at 9:26 am
RE: Riots in the UK? - by Tiberius - November 16, 2010 at 11:48 am
RE: Riots in the UK? - by Cerrone - November 17, 2010 at 10:46 am
RE: Riots in the UK? - by Sam - November 17, 2010 at 11:05 am
RE: Riots in the UK? - by Cerrone - November 17, 2010 at 11:36 am
RE: Riots in the UK? - by Tiberius - November 17, 2010 at 11:44 am
RE: Riots in the UK? - by Cerrone - November 17, 2010 at 11:56 am
RE: Riots in the UK? - by Sam - November 17, 2010 at 12:37 pm
RE: Riots in the UK? - by Cerrone - November 17, 2010 at 1:34 pm
RE: Riots in the UK? - by Tiberius - November 17, 2010 at 2:47 pm
RE: Riots in the UK? - by Cerrone - November 17, 2010 at 5:35 pm
RE: Riots in the UK? - by Tiberius - November 17, 2010 at 6:07 pm
RE: Riots in the UK? - by Cerrone - November 18, 2010 at 11:06 am
RE: Riots in the UK? - by theVOID - November 18, 2010 at 6:37 pm
RE: Riots in the UK? - by Cerrone - November 19, 2010 at 1:16 pm
RE: Riots in the UK? - by theVOID - November 17, 2010 at 5:44 pm
RE: Riots in the UK? - by Cerrone - November 17, 2010 at 6:12 pm
RE: Riots in the UK? - by Sam - November 17, 2010 at 6:30 pm
RE: Riots in the UK? - by theVOID - November 17, 2010 at 6:40 pm
RE: Riots in the UK? - by lrh9 - November 15, 2010 at 5:41 pm
RE: Riots in the UK? - by theVOID - November 15, 2010 at 6:57 pm
RE: Riots in the UK? - by Skipper - November 15, 2010 at 7:11 pm
RE: Riots in the UK? - by Ashendant - November 15, 2010 at 7:28 pm
RE: Riots in the UK? - by Skipper - November 16, 2010 at 6:33 am
RE: Riots in the UK? - by Cerrone - November 16, 2010 at 1:38 am
RE: Riots in the UK? - by theVOID - November 16, 2010 at 4:04 pm
RE: Riots in the UK? - by lrh9 - November 15, 2010 at 7:17 pm
RE: Riots in the UK? - by theVOID - November 15, 2010 at 7:41 pm
RE: Riots in the UK? - by theVOID - November 16, 2010 at 4:06 pm
RE: Riots in the UK? - by Tiberius - November 16, 2010 at 4:07 pm
RE: Riots in the UK? - by Tiberius - November 17, 2010 at 12:07 pm
RE: Riots in the UK? - by Sam - November 17, 2010 at 5:57 pm
RE: Riots in the UK? - by Tiberius - November 24, 2010 at 3:14 pm
RE: Riots in the UK? - by Skipper - November 24, 2010 at 4:15 pm

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