Riots in the UK?

[theVOID]

No actual merit? You don't think the opinion of the millions of British voters doesn't have merit?

It's hardly a free opinion though is it? Given the choice between three rotten bits of meat that you're forced to swallow you end up picking the one that's got the least flies buzzing around it, but that doesnt mean its gormet.

Anyone is free to establish a party, the reason there are no new major parties is because most people realise that there is no super group who's going to come fix everything, nor could this fantasy party that you have possibly exist.

The choices are applied ideologies, and as far as political ideologies that have any practical application go there aren't any many more possible choices. Given the nature of humanity and the structure of society both socially, politically and economically if any party was to form they would have to take pretty much the exact same measures as either of the two existing ideologues because you're still going to have the same challenges and the same limited tools to deal with them.

You have some fantasy idea of politics where the people and environment bend at the whim of the government, it's the other way around.

And wasteful? Like fuck they are, they're cutting their spending rapidly! It's one thing to have an opinion, it's another thing to stare facts in the face and still make arguments despite them.

Urghh they're cutting public spending sure, but they're still wasting trillions on nuclear weapons and futile wars.

War does cost money, and yes it is largely futile, but was it realistically better than the alternative? It's not so clear. Afghanistan was definitely justified, so there is some necessary cost, possibly the largest portion of the military spending. Iraq is not as justified, it was nice to depose Sadam but the actual total cost is too high.

And trillions? Who's ass did you pull those figures from? I did a quick check and the year on year costs are around a billions dollars for the UK. Wasted money? Some of it certainly, but I still doubt not going to war would have had better long term implications.

Are you under some illusion that these governments are inherently shit and some fella like you could take over and solve anything? It certainly seems like you are. That's usually a clear indicator that you don't actually have a fucking clue what the limits of government are.

You want unemployment to do down then you need to grow the economy, and to do that you need to trim the deficit, make more assets exchangeable, cut spending and give businesses intensive to develop.

And these totally inexperienced amateurs will likely cock it up, it's not the 1600s any more, the society we live in is a far more complex system than the one that existed then, and as such it requires far more effort to maintain it.

Riiight, so we need to retrace our steps to the point we fucked up society and rebuild from that point onwards. Back to basics. But the only solutions you've offered are just piling more shit ontop of shit, whereas we recognise our ability to not only clean up the fucking mess caused by governments, corporations and the brainwashed civilians such as .. well anybody in disagreement.. and create something infinately better. And fuck it whether we succeed or not, at least we're trying. Which is more than I can for the narrowminded petty intellectualists who do nothing but talk a lot of shit.

Brainwashed? No, just informed, unlike you.

The government doesn't have the resources to do what you want so even if you did take over by force and try and change everything you would completely fail, and it would be a testament to the fact that you didn't have a fucking clue about the dynamics of the situation to begin with.

The only valid solutions are ones that can actually be applied here and now and cutting spending is going to lower the deficit, the lower that is the lower the costs to service the loans, which are far higher than any war costs, this leads to more capital to spend on streamlining necessity services and cutting taxes to restore economic momentum which will create jobs. Spending money on completely inefficient services like free university is the only way to cut the deficit and the service costs.

Not to mention that lowering the deficit and gaining momentum in business will increase the Credit rating for the country, which makes the loans even cheaper. Spending more and more money has the exact opposite approach.

And who cares whether or not you succeed? How about the people who's lives will be crushed by an incompetent fuck-wit with a "who gives a shit" attitude?

These are solutions that are going to get our inherently complex socio-political system back into any sort of positive movement, not the fucking la-de-da fantasy your hooked on.