(September 26, 2015 at 6:21 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: Pope Francis speaks to a massive crowd on the National Mall, Washington, DC:
Richard Dawkins speaks to a sparse crowd at the 2012 Reason Rally at the National Mall:
Estimates of crowd size ranged from a paltry 8,000 to an generous high of 30,000.
(N.B.: God did not show up to dry the atheists off miraculously as He did at Fatima.)
I'm trying to figure out your point, here. Atheists aren't as fundamentalist about our claims as you've claimed, nor venerate Dawkins the way you have implied? That non-religion doesn't inspire fanatical devotion the way religion does?
I don't think you've really thought it through, pal.
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.