(October 4, 2015 at 9:10 am)Elpidio Chuy Wrote:(October 4, 2015 at 8:59 am)emjay Wrote: my boldIn heaven nobody's poor,but there are ranks.
More like being talked to by a brick wall.
Why do you think your approach is ever going to win converts? If god pays by commission, you're going to be a poor man in heaven.
but it is not exactly the kind of 'rank' we see on earth.
Now in Christ,we believer's are all equal in worth and dignity, but we aren't all equal in how we chose to exercise that on earth.
We know that the Twelve Apostles, for example, will be 'set up' as part of the heavenly rule in the New Jerusalem. But will they be 'lording it over us', or will they be exerting themselves to the utmost to SERVE us? I think the latter.
Mary's being Queen doesn't mean she is going to be sitting on a throne eating cherry bonbons and expecting us all to come up and curtsey to her every minute. .it means that as Queen she is going to be serving us, just as Christ, the "Master", made Himself a servant to the least ones.
So the 'higher' a person is (by virtue of his/her striving in life to be like Christ), the more that person in heaven will be attending to God and to others. We won't be noticing their rank by our being 'inferior' to them, but instead we will rejoice with them as they and we serve God to our fullness, forever.
According to the Sacred Council of Trent (1545-63) Session VI Canon 32 (D 842), a just person earns an increase of heavenly glory through good works.
Quote:842 Can. 32. If anyone shall say that the good works of the man justified are in such a way the gifts of God that they are not also the good merits of him who is justified, or that the one justified by the good works, which are done by him through the grace of God and the merit of Jesus Christ (whose living member he is), does not truly merit increase of grace, eternal life, and the attainment of that eternal life (if he should die in grace), and also an increase of glory: let him be anathema [cf. n. 803and 809].
Likewise Church Father Tertullian of Carthage (c. 160 - c. 225) draws a reference (Scorpiace, Chapter 6) to the many mansions in Christ mentions St. John 14:2, and the varying glory of the Sun, the Moon and the stars St. Paul speaks about in 1. Cor. 15:41.
Quote:Or how will there be many mansions in our Father's house, if not to accord with a diversity of deserts? How will one star also differ from another star in glory, unless in virtue of disparity in their rays?
What I mean is, the way you talk about us - as fools but never mind we'll learn in hell - clearly doesn't come from a position of love your fellow man. This inner peace and joy you claim to have seems more like schadenfreude. And the question is, does that matter with god? Are good works with bad intentions just as valid with him? If they are, then it's just about brownie points, and so the question becomes, are you being paid by the hour or by commission? Will you be rewarded in heaven for the number of souls you've actually brought to god (commission) or just being able to say "I tried" (even if you didn't try that hard and your heart wasn't in it).