Strict gun control in france.

[I_am_not_mafia]

What does that even mean?

I'm not an english tutor. 

Word salad can be grammatically correct. Doesn't mean that it makes any sense.

Strawman.

Who has been excusing your politicians for being ineffective? Did I say that?

I didn't say that you did, I said that we need you for it.   So...no, not a strawman.....l2logic.

So you (as in who? we the gun owning population?) need me to excuse politicians for being ineffective? Why? How? You're not even making any sense now. Or is this word salad again?

And you are deluded if you think gun ownership will stop the removal of your civil liberties.

That...would be a strawman.  You're welcome.  

Let's revisit your reply shall we?

What other country is so obsessed with a single subject? There are more gun threads started on forums with Americans than threads about cars, sex, computers or video games.

That right there tells you that America has a problem with guns in one form or another.

It tells you we have a problem with the possibility of an erosion of our rights based upon shitty logic and political opportunism.  Just a small thing to you, I know..............I know............

I was referring to you saying this in answer to my post that America is obsessed and has a problem with guns. It looked like you were saying that gun ownership was stopping the erosion of your rights. That has certainly been an argument on the many gun threads in the past so I assumed that's what you are saying. Instead it seems you are saying that strict gun controls are themselves an erosion of your rights ... all the while ignoring the fact that they would make your country a safer place. So you think that your own personal rights take priority over other people's suffering? Got it. Maybe you should read some economics and learn the concept of transferring cost onto a third party. All hail the American dream.

Because by the mere fact of owning a gun you are creating yet one more opportunity for it to be stolen and for it to fall into the hands of a criminal. No matter how careful you are, your house can still be broken into.

That's not actually how criminals get guns.  See, you've been had.   Again, sorry.  

I did not say that was how criminals get guns. But gun controls have to start somewhere and if the government makes it harder for criminals to obtain them then there is still a large pool of weapons out there that they can steal from. Also by buying and maintaining guns you are supporting an industry that can lobby the government to prevent strict gun controls from being brought in.