Veganism & vegetarianism

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I don't see the point of being a vegen/vegetarian on animal rights grounds. We hurt animals every day by clearing land for new homes, stripping their habitats to get resources, pumping fumes into the air. We hurt them just by existing. As long as they're being killed as humanely as possible then I have no complaints. I just can't deal with the over-zealous vegan who thinks they're doing so much for animals, when they're living in a house, driving a car, filling that car with petrol. Go live naked out in the forest with no possessions if you really want to do your part.

For dietary or cultural reasons, I have no issue with it of course. It's not for me, but do you.

Even if we cause some harm, we can still work to minimise it. What matters is the impact on reality, not the level of hypocrisy or zeal any particular person may have. If someone is helping in some small way, they are still helping, even if they could be doing more, and even if they are being a dick while doing it.

Clearly you do seek to minimise the harm, because of your comment about humane slaughter. You just draw the line for what is acceptable at a different point to where a vegan draws it.