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Programming the Human Mind:
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RE: Programming the Human Mind:
(November 21, 2015 at 8:04 pm)bennyboy Wrote: It's all very fine and well to wave in the general direction of the brain as the root of the human mind.  But if you are trying to reproduce the ability to subjectively experience outside the brain, how will you know if your machine really experiences, or is just a philosophical zombie?

First you need to define what qualia is, how to recognise it and how to measure it.

How do I know that qualia exists in your brain or whether you subjectively experience anything at all as opposed to reacting to stimuli? As far as I'm concerned you're just a biological automaton.

The very concept of Qualia is just a quagmire that does not help anyone. Conversations involving Qualia never get anywhere, they never result in any conclusion or testable hypothesis.

You feel like you have Qualia because you are your brain situated in your body situated in an environment. No one else feels what you are feeling.


(November 21, 2015 at 8:04 pm)bennyboy Wrote: It seems mind is in a function of the organic animal brain, but this does not mean that reproducing the functions of the brain guarantees the existence of a subjective mind.  

We have absolutely no reason to expect that it won't. Of course you also need to define what it means for something to feel subjectively. You can do that while figuring out how to measure Qualia.
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Programming the Human Mind: - by Shining_Finger - November 15, 2015 at 12:47 am
RE: Programming the Human Mind: - by dyresand - November 17, 2015 at 12:28 pm
RE: Programming the Human Mind: - by I_am_not_mafia - November 17, 2015 at 12:58 pm
RE: Programming the Human Mind: - by Thumpalumpacus - November 21, 2015 at 4:41 am
RE: Programming the Human Mind: - by I_am_not_mafia - November 21, 2015 at 6:47 am
RE: Programming the Human Mind: - by pgrimes15 - November 21, 2015 at 6:05 am
RE: Programming the Human Mind: - by bennyboy - November 20, 2015 at 9:40 pm
RE: Programming the Human Mind: - by I_am_not_mafia - November 21, 2015 at 6:34 am
RE: Programming the Human Mind: - by Darkstar - November 21, 2015 at 3:55 am
RE: Programming the Human Mind: - by I_am_not_mafia - November 21, 2015 at 6:58 am
RE: Programming the Human Mind: - by bennyboy - November 21, 2015 at 7:08 pm
RE: Programming the Human Mind: - by Longhorn - November 21, 2015 at 6:40 am
RE: Programming the Human Mind: - by I_am_not_mafia - November 21, 2015 at 7:53 pm
RE: Programming the Human Mind: - by bennyboy - November 21, 2015 at 8:04 pm
RE: Programming the Human Mind: - by I_am_not_mafia - November 24, 2015 at 5:10 am
RE: Programming the Human Mind: - by bennyboy - November 24, 2015 at 10:31 am
RE: Programming the Human Mind: - by I_am_not_mafia - November 24, 2015 at 11:45 am
RE: Programming the Human Mind: - by bennyboy - November 24, 2015 at 2:35 pm
RE: Programming the Human Mind: - by I_am_not_mafia - November 24, 2015 at 2:55 pm
RE: Programming the Human Mind: - by bennyboy - November 24, 2015 at 7:56 pm
RE: Programming the Human Mind: - by mr_j936 - November 24, 2015 at 4:16 am
RE: Programming the Human Mind: - by I_am_not_mafia - November 24, 2015 at 5:51 am

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