(December 12, 2015 at 3:02 am)Mechaghostman2 Wrote:(December 11, 2015 at 5:19 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: Huh ?
Actually, atheists are the most vicious critics of Islam, and that comes from my own personal experience in this forum !
With the fanatic Christians, Jews and nationalistic fanatics -I count nationalism as a religion-, arguments come out of blind hate and are mostly so stupid, uneducated and inclining more towards warmongering and spilling fuel on the turmoil.
Actually, they look like your profile picture.. The arguments I mean.
Atheists on the other hand, discuss smartly with well placed arguments, I was made fun of and furthermore insulted by atheists more than anybody else, I was wounded so bad in debates and had to think twice before writing any argument. And believe me, they don't like Islam xD
If you ask members here, I was led to explode before in discussions.
Discussion with atheists can turn a weak believer into an atheist. While discussion with "anti-theists" and "nationalistic brats" make Muslims more Muslims if you get my meaning
Not defending atheists in here. Just saying the truth.
So please OP, stop warmongering. I advice you to meet another member here (mralstoner), you make a pretty good team.
I'm not warmongering and that is a big strawman of my position. I critique Islam and those who follow it closely and take it seriously because a great many human rights abuses comes out of it, like stoning a woman for being raped in Saudi Arabia.
I'm not denying there are Liberal Muslims and non-devout Muslims and just overall nice Muslim people in general, in fact I know a few of them myself. But, in the words of Richard Dawkins:
You need to differentiate between Sunni/Shia Islam & Islam : a difference so wide is between them.
Stoning and such acts, only exist in the former : Sunni/Shia Islam.
There are people who take Islam very seriously (the latter in my above sentence) : and it taught them nothing but peaceful living and despising everything evil, everything corrupting this little planet of ours.
Anyhow, you can't seriously call those who "don't take Islam seriously" as Muslims. In other words : they are only people who fool themselves or trying to fool somebody else; from my experience this type of Muslims is the source of all bigotry, oppression and corruption.