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Is world better without Saddam?
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RE: Is world better without Saddam?
(December 29, 2015 at 7:42 pm)abaris Wrote:
(December 29, 2015 at 7:24 pm)TrueChristian Wrote: If you read the links you might know that there was wide suspicion that Saddam was making deadly WMDs: Nerve gas, anthrax, nuclear weapons, smallpox, etc etc.

The USA was already in a war with him, since the first Gulf War had not ended.

Wide suspicion as in USA and several puny bootlickers. I'm European and I'm old enough to remember the prelude pretty clearly. How the German foreign minister publicly told Rumsfeld off for not having made the case. How French politicians reacted to Bush's plans. Basically the whole of Europe, except some Eastern European countries and Aznar's Spain presented the findings of their own secret services to counter Bush's allegations. They trusted in what the UN commission, led by Mohammed el-Baradei presented, after investigating Iraq. An investigation, cut short by Bush's cronies, by basically ordering them out, since they wanted to finally start their war. Even Collin Powell was and still is outraged over what he had to present to the UN. False documents, based on one single source. A source, the German BND warned to be a phony, since they already investigated him.

Here's Joschka Fischer, then German foreign minster, adressing Rumsfeld at a conference.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_k_QbpFl7RM

Finally, the feudal attitude of the former Bush administration manifested itself in the transcript of a press conference, Bush, Aznar and Blair gave, right before giving their marching orders. In the transcript, everything said by Aznar was labelled to have been said by "josè". Same with Blair, who was adressed as "Tony". Only Bush was adressed as "The president of the United States". That in itself speak volumes about the coalition of the willing and their role.

And by the way, Bush and cronies took an extended piss on the grave of Justice Jackson, chief persecutor at the Nuremberg tribunals. In his opening statement, Jackson seeked to criminalize all forms of aggressive war. The full statement can be read here.

https://www.roberthjackson.org/speech-an...-tribunal/
I am from the U.S. and old enough to remember, and that's pretty much how I remember it.  I did and do, however, pay at least some attention to foreign news sources.
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Is world better without Saddam? - by TrueChristian - December 29, 2015 at 5:01 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by The Grand Nudger - December 29, 2015 at 5:12 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by CapnAwesome - December 29, 2015 at 5:22 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 29, 2015 at 5:27 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by TrueChristian - December 29, 2015 at 7:24 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by abaris - December 29, 2015 at 7:42 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by Jenny A - December 29, 2015 at 9:17 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 29, 2015 at 7:51 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by bennyboy - December 29, 2015 at 8:38 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by TrueChristian - December 30, 2015 at 12:23 am
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by Excited Penguin - December 30, 2015 at 12:26 am
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 30, 2015 at 5:15 am
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by abaris - December 30, 2015 at 5:35 am
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by Excited Penguin - December 30, 2015 at 2:56 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by abaris - December 30, 2015 at 2:59 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by Napoléon - December 29, 2015 at 5:30 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by abaris - December 29, 2015 at 5:47 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by CapnAwesome - December 30, 2015 at 12:10 am
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by abaris - December 30, 2015 at 4:00 am
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by Minimalist - December 29, 2015 at 5:43 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by bennyboy - December 29, 2015 at 6:35 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by Minimalist - December 29, 2015 at 7:45 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by brewer - December 29, 2015 at 8:01 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by Thumpalumpacus - December 29, 2015 at 9:01 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by TrueChristian - December 30, 2015 at 12:31 am
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by Minimalist - December 30, 2015 at 12:34 am
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by The Grand Nudger - December 30, 2015 at 7:47 am
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by abaris - December 30, 2015 at 8:09 am
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by Mister Agenda - December 30, 2015 at 3:52 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by The Grand Nudger - December 30, 2015 at 8:21 am
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by abaris - December 30, 2015 at 8:25 am
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by The Grand Nudger - December 30, 2015 at 8:27 am
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by abaris - December 30, 2015 at 9:53 am
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by The Grand Nudger - December 30, 2015 at 10:53 am
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by abaris - December 30, 2015 at 11:16 am
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by The Grand Nudger - December 30, 2015 at 11:49 am
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by abaris - December 30, 2015 at 11:56 am
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by The Grand Nudger - December 30, 2015 at 12:13 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by abaris - December 30, 2015 at 12:20 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by The Grand Nudger - December 30, 2015 at 12:32 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by abaris - December 30, 2015 at 12:44 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by The Grand Nudger - December 30, 2015 at 12:58 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by abaris - December 30, 2015 at 1:09 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by The Grand Nudger - December 30, 2015 at 1:19 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by abaris - December 30, 2015 at 1:23 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by The Grand Nudger - December 30, 2015 at 1:29 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by abaris - December 30, 2015 at 1:37 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by The Grand Nudger - December 30, 2015 at 1:35 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by The Grand Nudger - December 30, 2015 at 1:44 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by abaris - December 30, 2015 at 2:35 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by cocunningham - December 30, 2015 at 2:42 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by downbeatplumb - December 30, 2015 at 2:46 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by abaris - December 30, 2015 at 2:54 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by downbeatplumb - December 31, 2015 at 6:07 am
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by The Grand Nudger - December 30, 2015 at 4:18 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by abaris - December 30, 2015 at 4:46 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by Napoléon - December 30, 2015 at 5:08 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by The Grand Nudger - December 30, 2015 at 4:56 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by abaris - December 30, 2015 at 5:02 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by The Grand Nudger - December 30, 2015 at 5:08 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by Minimalist - December 30, 2015 at 5:15 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by abaris - December 30, 2015 at 5:18 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by The Grand Nudger - December 30, 2015 at 5:23 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by abaris - December 30, 2015 at 6:19 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by The Grand Nudger - December 30, 2015 at 5:29 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by Napoléon - December 30, 2015 at 5:36 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by The Grand Nudger - December 30, 2015 at 5:43 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by The Grand Nudger - December 30, 2015 at 6:23 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by abaris - December 30, 2015 at 6:29 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by Minimalist - December 30, 2015 at 6:26 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by The Grand Nudger - December 30, 2015 at 6:27 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by Minimalist - December 30, 2015 at 6:34 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by abaris - December 30, 2015 at 6:41 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by The Grand Nudger - December 30, 2015 at 6:38 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by Minimalist - December 31, 2015 at 1:59 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by TrueChristian - December 30, 2015 at 10:47 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by abaris - December 31, 2015 at 7:16 am
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by TrueChristian - December 31, 2015 at 1:35 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by Thumpalumpacus - December 30, 2015 at 10:52 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by The Grand Nudger - December 31, 2015 at 7:23 am
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by bennyboy - December 31, 2015 at 9:31 am
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by The Grand Nudger - December 31, 2015 at 9:38 am
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by The Grand Nudger - December 31, 2015 at 9:45 am
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by dyresand - December 31, 2015 at 9:51 am
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by abaris - December 31, 2015 at 10:23 am
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by dyresand - December 31, 2015 at 10:53 am
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by abaris - December 31, 2015 at 10:58 am
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by dyresand - December 31, 2015 at 11:28 am
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by The Grand Nudger - December 31, 2015 at 9:54 am
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by abaris - December 31, 2015 at 1:47 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by The Grand Nudger - December 31, 2015 at 1:50 pm

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