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Is world better without Saddam?
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RE: Is world better without Saddam?
(December 30, 2015 at 5:15 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
Quote:Perhaps, going forward, we should leave people under their despots and tyrants, the world over,

Rhythm, why is that our problem?  Don't the oppressed have a duty to rise up if they want to change their condition? 
They have neither the duty, nor, commonly, the opportunity.  It is only our problem insomuch as we would like to offer that opportunity. I can't personally label it our problem. I can only say that we have decided, from time to time that it is, and that many of us have been willing to make the personal commitment to that at ground level. I was willing to make it "my problem", and my government decided that it was "our problem". From thence I proceed. I cannot volunteer you, and you alone cannot prevent us, lol. We interfere because we are in a position to do so. Uniquely so, at present. We're clearly not uniformly in the right, our plans can clearly go wrong...but if we, in the US, can't help or shouldn't help when we are in such a position...I weep for the globe. Who can or should help, who is in a better position to do so?

Quote:No one helped the French or the Russians to overthrow oppressive governments.  Quite the opposite, the world lined up against the revolutionaries.  Even the French only came to our aid when we showed that we might actually prevail after Saratoga, and let's be honest, France was still smarting over the results of the 7 Years War.
-and in each case those elements are on the wrong side of history - as we have been ourselves. Supporting an oppressive orthodoxy through the consent of silence or inactivity.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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Is world better without Saddam? - by TrueChristian - December 29, 2015 at 5:01 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by The Grand Nudger - December 29, 2015 at 5:12 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by CapnAwesome - December 29, 2015 at 5:22 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 29, 2015 at 5:27 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by TrueChristian - December 29, 2015 at 7:24 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by abaris - December 29, 2015 at 7:42 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by Jenny A - December 29, 2015 at 9:17 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 29, 2015 at 7:51 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by bennyboy - December 29, 2015 at 8:38 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by TrueChristian - December 30, 2015 at 12:23 am
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by Excited Penguin - December 30, 2015 at 12:26 am
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 30, 2015 at 5:15 am
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by abaris - December 30, 2015 at 5:35 am
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by Excited Penguin - December 30, 2015 at 2:56 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by abaris - December 30, 2015 at 2:59 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by Napoléon - December 29, 2015 at 5:30 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by abaris - December 29, 2015 at 5:47 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by CapnAwesome - December 30, 2015 at 12:10 am
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by abaris - December 30, 2015 at 4:00 am
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by Minimalist - December 29, 2015 at 5:43 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by bennyboy - December 29, 2015 at 6:35 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by Minimalist - December 29, 2015 at 7:45 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by brewer - December 29, 2015 at 8:01 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by Thumpalumpacus - December 29, 2015 at 9:01 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by TrueChristian - December 30, 2015 at 12:31 am
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by Minimalist - December 30, 2015 at 12:34 am
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by The Grand Nudger - December 30, 2015 at 7:47 am
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by abaris - December 30, 2015 at 8:09 am
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by Mister Agenda - December 30, 2015 at 3:52 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by The Grand Nudger - December 30, 2015 at 8:21 am
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by abaris - December 30, 2015 at 8:25 am
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by The Grand Nudger - December 30, 2015 at 8:27 am
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by abaris - December 30, 2015 at 9:53 am
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by The Grand Nudger - December 30, 2015 at 10:53 am
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by abaris - December 30, 2015 at 11:16 am
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by The Grand Nudger - December 30, 2015 at 11:49 am
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by abaris - December 30, 2015 at 11:56 am
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by The Grand Nudger - December 30, 2015 at 12:13 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by abaris - December 30, 2015 at 12:20 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by The Grand Nudger - December 30, 2015 at 12:32 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by abaris - December 30, 2015 at 12:44 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by The Grand Nudger - December 30, 2015 at 12:58 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by abaris - December 30, 2015 at 1:09 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by The Grand Nudger - December 30, 2015 at 1:19 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by abaris - December 30, 2015 at 1:23 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by The Grand Nudger - December 30, 2015 at 1:29 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by abaris - December 30, 2015 at 1:37 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by The Grand Nudger - December 30, 2015 at 1:35 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by The Grand Nudger - December 30, 2015 at 1:44 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by abaris - December 30, 2015 at 2:35 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by cocunningham - December 30, 2015 at 2:42 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by downbeatplumb - December 30, 2015 at 2:46 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by abaris - December 30, 2015 at 2:54 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by downbeatplumb - December 31, 2015 at 6:07 am
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by The Grand Nudger - December 30, 2015 at 4:18 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by abaris - December 30, 2015 at 4:46 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by Napoléon - December 30, 2015 at 5:08 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by The Grand Nudger - December 30, 2015 at 4:56 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by abaris - December 30, 2015 at 5:02 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by The Grand Nudger - December 30, 2015 at 5:08 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by Minimalist - December 30, 2015 at 5:15 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by abaris - December 30, 2015 at 5:18 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by The Grand Nudger - December 30, 2015 at 5:23 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by abaris - December 30, 2015 at 6:19 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by The Grand Nudger - December 30, 2015 at 5:29 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by Napoléon - December 30, 2015 at 5:36 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by The Grand Nudger - December 30, 2015 at 5:43 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by The Grand Nudger - December 30, 2015 at 6:23 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by abaris - December 30, 2015 at 6:29 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by Minimalist - December 30, 2015 at 6:26 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by The Grand Nudger - December 30, 2015 at 6:27 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by Minimalist - December 30, 2015 at 6:34 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by abaris - December 30, 2015 at 6:41 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by The Grand Nudger - December 30, 2015 at 6:38 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by Minimalist - December 31, 2015 at 1:59 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by TrueChristian - December 30, 2015 at 10:47 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by abaris - December 31, 2015 at 7:16 am
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by TrueChristian - December 31, 2015 at 1:35 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by Thumpalumpacus - December 30, 2015 at 10:52 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by The Grand Nudger - December 31, 2015 at 7:23 am
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by bennyboy - December 31, 2015 at 9:31 am
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by The Grand Nudger - December 31, 2015 at 9:38 am
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by The Grand Nudger - December 31, 2015 at 9:45 am
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by dyresand - December 31, 2015 at 9:51 am
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by abaris - December 31, 2015 at 10:23 am
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by dyresand - December 31, 2015 at 10:53 am
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by abaris - December 31, 2015 at 10:58 am
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by dyresand - December 31, 2015 at 11:28 am
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by The Grand Nudger - December 31, 2015 at 9:54 am
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by abaris - December 31, 2015 at 1:47 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by The Grand Nudger - December 31, 2015 at 1:50 pm

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