Good post. I also think that our thoughts are chosen by 'us'.
Because what part of us chooses them? They choose them selves and/or are influenced by previous thoughts or subconscious thoughts etc, I think.
Once again nice post. I don't understand how one can choose one's own thoughts with - what? - other thoughts? That doesn't really make sense to me. Kind of the begging the question fallacy I think: We choose out thoughts...how do we do that? With our thoughts! lol.
I think with determinism free will is completely impossible. With INdeterminism its possible - but I don't know of any evidence that there is any.
Now there is evitability - so however 'unfree' it makes you feel - you are no less free than you have ever been. You can do what you always did. If you don't have free will now then you never did - so what's the point in worrying?
Its one thing to have a future that's not determined. Its another to be able to decide exactly what path to go down without simply being, like everything else.
If there are 5 doors and you don't know where any of them led to...and 4 of them are safe and 1 of them is dangerous....
If you had bad luck and went down the dangerous one....I don't see how it could make sense that you had 'free will' to choose otherwise and make a better decision. You just did what you thought was best. And once again how do you choose those thoughts? With thoughts?
So I think determinism is impossible with free will. But indeterminism certainly doesn't imply it in the traditional sense. Obviously there is evitability and there is more so in some circumstances than in others.
EvF
Because what part of us chooses them? They choose them selves and/or are influenced by previous thoughts or subconscious thoughts etc, I think.
Once again nice post. I don't understand how one can choose one's own thoughts with - what? - other thoughts? That doesn't really make sense to me. Kind of the begging the question fallacy I think: We choose out thoughts...how do we do that? With our thoughts! lol.
I think with determinism free will is completely impossible. With INdeterminism its possible - but I don't know of any evidence that there is any.
Now there is evitability - so however 'unfree' it makes you feel - you are no less free than you have ever been. You can do what you always did. If you don't have free will now then you never did - so what's the point in worrying?
Its one thing to have a future that's not determined. Its another to be able to decide exactly what path to go down without simply being, like everything else.
If there are 5 doors and you don't know where any of them led to...and 4 of them are safe and 1 of them is dangerous....
If you had bad luck and went down the dangerous one....I don't see how it could make sense that you had 'free will' to choose otherwise and make a better decision. You just did what you thought was best. And once again how do you choose those thoughts? With thoughts?
So I think determinism is impossible with free will. But indeterminism certainly doesn't imply it in the traditional sense. Obviously there is evitability and there is more so in some circumstances than in others.
EvF
