(January 10, 2016 at 1:12 pm)Jenny A Wrote:So how about ourselves? We are not defined by physical world. At most, we are created by a physical world (brain/body). Is it impossible to prove you exist to yourself?(January 10, 2016 at 12:43 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: I'm sorry, by reality, you mean God particularly? I think Aristotle did through pure reason. Refuting what is proven by reason by saying you can't prove anything about reality by pure reason is rather circular is it not? Reason is part of reality unless you are not real.
No, reason is not reality anymore than a dream or a novel is reality. You can for example prove various things about the nature of triangles as mathematicaly defined with math. But you can't prove the existence of a single triangle with math. Defining triangles does not cause them to exist anywhere but in our thoughts. As a thought, god exists. But unlike triangles he can't be found in the real world, but even then, I'm merely applying the label triangle to things already in the real world.. I could define a biangle as an object bounded by two straight lines. As a thought the biangle now exists. But I've got a long way to go if I intend to prove that one exists in the real world.
If so, tell me which one of our five sense detects that "self"? Is it the eyes that see who you are. Is it the ears?
How do you detect love? What does it mean to you?
Justice, goodness, beauty is a detectable as perceiving myself exists. I see no reason to make an exception to them, the perception of myself actually depends on them existing.
