(January 12, 2016 at 6:49 am)Rhythm Wrote: It's not a point that needs proving Atlas, we're not having a philosophical debate, understand? I have informed you of a fact. There was no Adam, and there was no Eve. We would know if there were...and our methods for determining this are a little more sophisticated than digging up a grave.
The very first evidence is trivial, the earliest evidence science has is, by default, the very "first" evidence. Why do you think science would know nothing about something that it possesses and exists by fiat of definition?
Lost evidence is no evidence. Is that what you're holding out hope for..some "lost evidence" that contradicts all other evidence and allows your fairy tale? Good luck waiting on that.
I have not claimed that humans have no parents, mouth breather...I told you, in no uncertain terms..that there was no adam and no eve..repeatedly. You could not have gotten that wrong on accident. I wish this fact would make you wonder...but I'm not sure you're capable.
I'm not convinced & here is why : was the Garden of Eden here on earth or was it in the heavens; in a different place ? before assaulting me , realize that I'm saying this because of this verse :
( Sura 2 Verse 36 ) But Satan caused them to slip out of it and removed them from that [condition] in which they had been. And We said, "Descend from it [all of you], as enemies to one another, and you will have upon the earth a place of settlement and provision for a time."
In other words, our presence -along with the evidence of presence- on earth, was not the first existence our specie get.
Having a brain that extends for the idea to fit inside it, is indeed a wise brain. Like why not ? Who knows ?
Oh right..You're not having a philosophical discussion. But I'm speaking within a "what if ?" context..a "what if" that is hard to disprove. Nothing against science.
Homeless Nutter
Nah, just a daydreamer who saw his share of wonderful crazy stuff, dozens of them, enough to believe a book read and preached by an illiterate Arab man 1400 years ago.
robvalue
Quote:No, you don't have to disprove magical claims to do science. You ignore them as speculation at best, unless they have any actual evidence behind them. How much time have you spent disproving Lord of the Rings? How can you be so sure it didn't really happen just as written?
Tolkien stated directly that his work was no more than an attempt to produce a myth composed from European folklore. If he foretold the tale without saying that, and evidence for disproving it wasn't there, then why not have a mind that can extend to accept the possibility of the occasion ?
Quote:"You can't prove it false so it's probably true" is not a valid argument, which I made a whole video about recently. I'll repeat it here in case you missed it. If you ignore this and continue with the same argument, you're utterly wasting your time.
I would say "might be true" instead of "probably true".
The clear disproving evidence would be something like a holy book, saying that earth is triangular, or saying that the sun is purple.
I never say "you can't prove it false so it's probably true". If so, then my whole faith would go down.