RE: If Allah has a plan, what is the point of Dua?
January 27, 2016 at 4:16 am
(This post was last modified: January 27, 2016 at 4:23 am by robvalue.)
OK, so you're in the religion because you're scared to not be in it. And because of promises of loads of stuff "after you die". This is the classic carrot and stick technique religion uses. When you cut through all the fallacious arguments, this is one of the few honest responses I actually hear.
Isn't it weird how you're not similarly scared that Christianity might be true and you'll go to Christian hell?
What about all the other religions? Why exactly is it Islam or nothing? They all use the same trick. Believe, or suffer! Believe, and you get free stuff!
Why would you worship a monster who holds your soul hostage? This is negotiating with terrorists.
This is what indoctrination does to people. It programs them to obey, based on an intangible threat which has been forced into their brain and which can never be tested. The threat is associated with a particular religion, of course, which is why this Pascal's wager kind of thinking is so prevalent.
However, either you really believe in Isam or you don't. If you "choose to believe" it because of fear, then you don't actually believe it. You're just saying you do, and you hope that will fool Allah. Do you think Allah is so easily duped?
Neither does it all become real just because you (say you) believe in it. It's real, or it's not.
(It's not. If there is a god, it is not one of the petty, humanoid, childish temper tantrum throwing contradictory idiots in old story books.)
Isn't it weird how you're not similarly scared that Christianity might be true and you'll go to Christian hell?
What about all the other religions? Why exactly is it Islam or nothing? They all use the same trick. Believe, or suffer! Believe, and you get free stuff!
Why would you worship a monster who holds your soul hostage? This is negotiating with terrorists.
This is what indoctrination does to people. It programs them to obey, based on an intangible threat which has been forced into their brain and which can never be tested. The threat is associated with a particular religion, of course, which is why this Pascal's wager kind of thinking is so prevalent.
However, either you really believe in Isam or you don't. If you "choose to believe" it because of fear, then you don't actually believe it. You're just saying you do, and you hope that will fool Allah. Do you think Allah is so easily duped?
Neither does it all become real just because you (say you) believe in it. It's real, or it's not.
(It's not. If there is a god, it is not one of the petty, humanoid, childish temper tantrum throwing contradictory idiots in old story books.)
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