(February 2, 2016 at 11:00 am)Drich Wrote:(February 1, 2016 at 4:02 pm)Nihilist Virus Wrote: 1. "Jesus did not change the Law He completed it. Meaning he expanded it to include thought, and to provide atonement that would cover all sin."
2. The law allows for rape, pedophilia, and fornication; also it expressly consents to slavery
3. Jesus condones these things
4. These things are part of God's moral absolutes
Let's see that backpedaling now.
Instead of going back lets push forward and properly establish the condoning you claim... Please by all means provide us with book Chapter and verse.
When I say the law allows for rape, I am saying that there is no commandment, "Thou shalt not rape." Period. Does not exist. Rape is only punishable if it is accompanied with some form of adultery, which is to say that rape and consensual sex were indistinguishable to the lawmakers.
In Deuteronomy 22, which you wanted me to read for some reason (most Christians try to pretend this chapter doesn't exist), if you look at verses 28-29, there is no real punishment for rape. None. The "punishment" is not because of the rape aspect but because the man took the virginity of the father's daughter, so he has to pay THE FATHER. Nothing is done for the woman except that she is "allowed" to marry her rapist (???) or perhaps choose not to, and if she chooses to (???) then he cannot divorce her. But she basically has to marry the piece of shit because otherwise her father will lose the 50 shekels of silver and also any future dowry because she's "shamed" (???), which may or may not mean she'll get kicked out of her home, and on top of that the virgin-obsessed Jews would not want to marry her, and in that patriarchal society she'd be worthless without a man. That is the system your God came up with. So please, let me know, what do you think will happen when the rapist marries her? Society is ENCOURAGING his behavior by putting him under the same roof with his victim. He's gonna rape her at his whim for the rest of her life. This is what God ordained... which means Jesus ordained this, because of the trinity.
As far as pedophilia goes, there is no mention for the age of consent. You sent me on the wild goose chase in Deuteronomy 22, saying that this is where the age of consent is given (because I had previously mentioned that pedophilia is not a sin). I can't tell you where pedophilia is NOT mentioned...
As for fornication, as long as it is between two people who are not married, and as long as the woman never marries afterward, I do not find that it is forbidden by the law. But please, by all means, put that claim to the fire to see if it's valid. I don't want to keep making false accusations against the Bible because there are already so many damn things wrong with it that there's no need for false accusations.
So as far as I see it, your God allows for the raping of babies... as long as, of course, it's heterosexual. The SPECIFIC laws do not even mention pedophilia... ever... not even once.
Jesus is like Pinocchio. He's the bastard son of a carpenter. And a liar. And he wishes he was real.