RE: The Problem with Christians
March 8, 2016 at 7:22 am
(This post was last modified: March 8, 2016 at 7:27 am by AJW333.)
(March 7, 2016 at 1:01 am)IATIA Wrote:This translation is a little clearer,(March 6, 2016 at 9:19 pm)AJW333 Wrote: Nope.
Luke 14:33
So likewise, whosoever he be of you that forsaketh not all that he hath, he cannot be my disciple.
"So therefore, any one of you who does not renounce all that he has cannot be my disciple." ESV
The sense of renouncing here is to entrust all of your possessions to God - to consider them as God's, not yours. This may or may not entail giving it all away.
(March 7, 2016 at 1:34 am)Mamacita Wrote: AJ, AJ, AJ...
I thought I told you in your intro thread that you couldn't use "Bible" until you repped me.
I knew you would eventually use it. Theists never disappoint.
Fasten your seat belt as I have a whole world of Bible coming your way.
(March 7, 2016 at 10:58 am)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote:I'll pay that one.(March 6, 2016 at 9:14 pm)AJW333 Wrote: Sounds familiar.
"And he said, ‘No, father Abraham, but if someone goes to them from the dead, they will repent.’ He said to him, ‘If they do not hear Moses and the Prophets, neither will they be convinced if someone should rise from the dead.’” Luke 16:30
I don't follow the logic. It sounds like you're saying, "because your afterlife is going to be better than this life, you should make this life a whole lot worse for yourself." Why would a rational person want to do that?
An excellent question. Let's ask god-and-son-of-god:
Matthew 19:21 Jesus answered, "If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me."
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28 Jesus said to them, “Truly I tell you, at the renewal of all things, when the Son of Man sits on his glorious throne, you who have followed me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. 29 And everyone who has left houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or wifee or children or fields for my sake will receive a hundred times as much and will inherit eternal life. 30 But many who are first will be last, and many who are last will be first.
[Bold emphasis my own.]