"No.
What I'm saying is for me their isn't any right or wrong value in any action. That under Christ all actions are neutral. Meaning one can not earn the right to Heaven through action nor can one loose it though action."
So if I'm not looking to go to this heaven for which there is no proof of then I don't have to be concerned with what Jesus (words written by goat herders) said. Right?
I'm getting the impression that the only reason you try to do the right thing is to make it to Heaven/ avoid hell by listening to the Bible.
this is understandable if you take on the whole faith idea.
That's fine...for you. For me I make my decisions, however flawed they may be, based on observation and mostly careful thinking. These decisions will inevitably effect the world around me. From this I can, for the most part, clearly observe the outcome and there by make a more informed decision the next time. I'm okay with this system. It's not perfect but I feel that it is better than holding fast to the past decisions of men (for it is men who wrote and Bible not a god.)
Mathew 28 proves once again that the Christian would rather be alone in the world instead of making positive change in it. Why? because this life means nothing to them, only the after life counts. I am suspect of any moral argument from any one who follows such a death cult.
It is also clear that you are not hear to make a positive difference but instead to practice arguing.
After understanding this last point I can walk away.
What I'm saying is for me their isn't any right or wrong value in any action. That under Christ all actions are neutral. Meaning one can not earn the right to Heaven through action nor can one loose it though action."
So if I'm not looking to go to this heaven for which there is no proof of then I don't have to be concerned with what Jesus (words written by goat herders) said. Right?
I'm getting the impression that the only reason you try to do the right thing is to make it to Heaven/ avoid hell by listening to the Bible.
this is understandable if you take on the whole faith idea.
That's fine...for you. For me I make my decisions, however flawed they may be, based on observation and mostly careful thinking. These decisions will inevitably effect the world around me. From this I can, for the most part, clearly observe the outcome and there by make a more informed decision the next time. I'm okay with this system. It's not perfect but I feel that it is better than holding fast to the past decisions of men (for it is men who wrote and Bible not a god.)
Mathew 28 proves once again that the Christian would rather be alone in the world instead of making positive change in it. Why? because this life means nothing to them, only the after life counts. I am suspect of any moral argument from any one who follows such a death cult.
It is also clear that you are not hear to make a positive difference but instead to practice arguing.
After understanding this last point I can walk away.
