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[KevinM1]

Not to mention, that's what the Scientific Method is FOR, having other researchers check your data.

Essentially, they're pointing out that there's another possibility, despite the fact that the mathematical calculations said there should be the H-B there at that specific GeV.

The theory predicted it. The math showed it should be there. And something was found there.

All the other team is doing is saying that the thing we found may possibly be something other than an intact HB, as you pointed out. But other scientists always conduct experiments that will confirm or reject a result from any group... that is quite literally how the Scientific Method works.

The funny thing is that you're attacking CERN when all they did was look for it at the GeV level the decay of the particle should have emitted, and they found that. It was predicted by one team (thus the Nobel), and then found by another team via the experiments at the LHC. Others will question the results, as they should, and it may be confirmed or denied by later research, but IT WAS THERE.

What's baffling in all this is that you think it makes science into "Imaginationland", or somesuch.

The same is true of the Black Hole. We infer their existence from mathematical models built upon the data, as you pointed out. And, as new data comes in, they sometimes need to adjust the idea to fit the new information (as when Einstein's discoveries about high-speed travel showed that Newtonian math couldn't accurately predict the motion of two objects relative to one another... Newton wasn't wrong, per se, he just didn't have the information necessary to formulate a model that gave us the degree of precision that Einstein allowed for). That's what's happening with Black Holes; we're refining our formulation of how they work. Hawking was the first to discover that the BH could emit radiation at all, and to show how it would work.

We get that the jury is still out on the proof via CERN of the H-B predicted by the winners of the Nobel, but that's science doing its job. While I applaud you for doing research on the findings of science, I find your deeply-ingrained agenda to be disturbing. Frankly, people like you frighten the shit out of me... you apply skepticism only when it suits you, such as attacking science because it says not-nice things about your favorite fairytales. We applaud your application of skepticism, however rudimentary, but we ask that you try really really really hard to gain a better understanding of how science works, and why it must work that way.

Except, his 'skepticism' is entirely agenda driven.  Drich could give two shits about actual science.  What he's desperate to do, to the point of repeatedly embarrassing himself, is to falsely equivocate science and theism.  He's utterly desperate to make us out to be theists in everything but name so he can gloat over the hypocrisy he mistakenly thinks we're committing.

It's his MO.  He does exactly the same thing when it comes to slavery.  He just tried doing the same thing in Won2Blv's prophecy thread.  Drich has a very narrow, mostly factually incorrect view of reality, and rather than actually try to broaden his horizons and learn something, he attempts to twist things he obviously knows nothing about to fit into that vision.  And he gets schooled.  Every.  Single.  Time.

Now, he'll deny this.  Of course he will.  His ego cannot handle being wrong.  After all, he's a chosen one!  God spontaneously cured him of AIDS!  Of cancer!  God put a literal angel investor in his lap!  For some reason his god hasn't made him spell better than a 4th grader, but that's neither here nor there.  And all the truly smart people he knows agree with him!  It has nothing to do with confirmation bias, but with them being smart.  Surely smarter than the rest of you dumb atheists.  

And he's nicer, too!  Why, he just stated he wanted to kick dyresand's teeth in in the prophecy thread because of the way he types (oh ironies of irony).  And he's repeatedly tried to insult you regarding your prison time with his 'hurr durr, gay sex' insults.

Truly, Drich is the model of Christianity we should all follow.