The Problem with Christians

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Are you guys saying that DNA does not convey information? I don't even think there is any debate in the scientific community. It clearly does. For example, chapter 33 in my biochemistry textbook is called: The Structure of Informational Macromolecules: DNA and RNA

We accept that DNA possesses informational content, but we disagree with the theistic assertion that information is some magic objective quantity that has to be created as opposed to interpreted from observation, and that it can only be created by a mind. We understand that information can be created by minds, but that it can also be derived from non-conscious sources by minds observing patterns within those sources and using that to communicate something of the capabilities and predictive models that can be associated with that source. In the case of DNA, it is composed of chemical reactions, there's no information there, but humans can observe those chemical reactions and, since they're consistent across multiple iterations, their outcomes can be predicted and we can know something about the eventual organism by the DNA, and there you have information.

It's an interaction between a mind and a source of observational data, not some arcane witchcraft that requires a mind to be created.

There is information there. It doesn't only become information when a human perceives it. It's like the question of if a tree falls and nobody is around to hear it does it make a sound? Of course it does. It produces a sound wave, just because there is no receiver to detect it does not mean the wave does not exist. Similarly with DNA, it contains information in the form of a highly irregular sequence that is recognized by hundreds, probably even thousands of different proteins/regulatory RNA molecules. A human does not need to be there to perceive it for there to be information present.