(April 1, 2016 at 8:46 am)Stimbo Wrote:I'm not switching tracks as the two arguments are integral to each other. I start with the observation that life is too complex to have occurred by random chance and this leads to the conclusion that there is a designer and creator. The creator of the universe must be separate from it since he existed before it came into being. We know that time is a dimension that exists within the universe and therefore anything (eg God) that exists outside the universe is therefore not subject to it.(April 1, 2016 at 5:55 am)AJW333 Wrote: Looking at the complexity of living systems and determining that the chances that these things evolved from random chemicals is infinitely less than there being a super intelligence that designed it all.
No, I'm not going to let you switch tracks on me. You wasn't talking about complexity of living systems or random chemicals - you made three specific assertions, viz:
(March 31, 2016 at 4:47 am)AJW333 Wrote: When God created the universe, he created the dimension of time. He is not subject to age in the way we measure it because he is outside of time. Therefore it is not necessary that God has a creator - he is eternal.
and I want to know how you know this. Don't play Dolphinetics with me - I invented the term.
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