(April 2, 2016 at 12:33 pm)athrock Wrote:(April 2, 2016 at 9:01 am)Mr.wizard Wrote: Well until you have proven God and his attributes, special pleading still applies. Because until you have proof, you are asserting that there is something that doesn't have to play by the same rules as everything else.
Ah...the ultimate "Get Out of Jail Free" card for atheists.
Prove God exists first, and then we'll talk.
(As if we can't have an intelligent conversation about God even if He doesn't.)
But whether I can prove God exists or not is irrelevant because the attributes of God which we are considering can be evaluated either way. IOW, we don't need an ACTUAL God in order to discuss the omnipotence or omniscience of a theoretical god, do we?
As long as you acknowledge that your just making it up as go, sure we can discuss it. However, Until you actually produce an Omnipotent Omniscient god I don't see how we can have a reasonable discussion about a hypothetical being from your imagination.