(May 8, 2016 at 7:17 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Sorry it took me all day to respond! Hmmm...okay. So, let's say the reason I "decided" to hold my pee is because I was watching a funny movie and I didn't want to miss my favorite part. In my mind, I weighed my options, and then "chose" to wait until a commercial. I could have just as easily gotten up and went pee. But you're saying that my choice wasn't really a free choice at all? Because I happened to like that particular spot in the movie then there is no real way I would have made any other choice? Something along those lines?
I'd say yes, there was no real way but I'd say it wasn't so much that you 'happened' to like that particular spot in the movie, but your reasons for wanting to stay were perfectly valid, but not exhaustive -- those reasons aren't the full story. Where do those reasons come from? It's less that you 'happened' to like it, and more that you were caused to.
I'd say that when we ask why you did something and say the reason is your desire, that's true but then we have to ask the reason for your desire, and then your reason for that. Ultimately these 'reasons' are about cause and effect. Assuming we believe that the nature of reality involves cause and effect, there's no reason for us to not believe it applies to everything, so our desires must come from somewhere else ultimately, as far back as the beginning of the universe/time -- as far back as the first cause.
-Hammy
