RE: The Problem of Evil (XXVII)
June 16, 2016 at 12:49 pm
(This post was last modified: June 16, 2016 at 12:56 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(June 16, 2016 at 12:40 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote:Then why is it that you feel your comments on this...would be informative as to the nature of -that- ?(June 16, 2016 at 12:23 pm)Rhythm Wrote: b-mineNo
Let me stop you right here..because it's important. Is that an adequate description of your god's omniscience?
Quote:The full quote is "For instance in such discussions; I am 99% sure, that someone is going to argue, that knowing the choice one is going to make, violates free will."No....?
Are you saying I should be 100% certain?
Quote:Why not... if I can relatively accurately predict the choice you are going to make, then did you really have a choice?Why does it matter, if none of this is an adequate description of the situation or particulars to which you have fielded it as a deflection? Do I seem to be disputing the existence of choices...or that humans make them...because I'm not.
Quote:Are our choices based on something from within ourselves?Seems so.
Quote:Is it based on reason and experience?Sometimes, sure.
Quote: Are we responsible for our choices?I don't know. There's utility in that as an assumption regardless of it's truth...but it's not actually required even for the utility we support with it. I suppose it would mean alot more to me if I had a concept of moral dessert such as your own and it was intractable from my religious beliefs. But since I don't and it isn't, it doesn't.
Quote:It seems to me, that in being over zealous on the "free" part of the equation, that you are eliminating the "will" part of it.Your objection..is that you don't like the perceived consequences.....well no shit...but really?
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