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Refuting Christians with their Own Bible
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RE: Refuting Christians with their Own Bible
(June 28, 2016 at 6:07 pm)ChadWooters Wrote:
(June 28, 2016 at 5:18 pm)Veritas_Vincit Wrote: Jesus expressly says all of this is still binding:

It kinda all depends on what the phrase "...till all be fulfilled" (the resurrection or the second coming?), the time period covered by "till heaven and earth pass" (eternity, destruction of the temple, the New Jerusalem?)  and what constitutes "the law" (the entire Torah, just the 613 mitzvah, the Hillel principle?), how it is applied in specific instances (age of conscience, the Mosaic theocracy, the Apostolic period?). You should also note that those who break the commandments are called "least in the kingdom of heaven" and not exiles from it. That in itself is fascinating. My point is that there is a lot going on in that particular verse and the simple minded objection by a contrarian using a wooden hermeneutic doesn't carry much weight with me.

I would agree that one of the inherent problems with the Bible is that it is very imprecise and ambiguous and open to interpretation. Having said that, I think that this passage is pretty clearly talking about the law of Moses (the 613). As for the time scale, "Till heaven and earth pass" could either mean until the end of the world, or never, since presumably Heaven will never pass. I don't see any reason to infer anything sooner. And if the law still stands then surely anyone commits these sins needs to be put to death. It seems like rather than joining all the dots to make the actual picture, you are selectively dot-joining to draw a picture of what you want to see. 

All of this is prevaricating around the burning bush of God's original, direct injunctions to commit all manner of immoral and horrible crimes - child sacrifice, murder, slavery, genocide etc. When was it EVER good to do such horrible things? The God of the Bible is clearly a psychopathic and barbaric monster.
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Refuting Christians with their Own Bible - by Incognito - June 28, 2016 at 7:02 am
RE: Refuting Christians with their Own Bible - by SteveII - June 28, 2016 at 11:30 am
RE: Refuting Christians with their Own Bible - by SteveII - June 28, 2016 at 12:36 pm
RE: Refuting Christians with their Own Bible - by Veritas_Vincit - June 28, 2016 at 6:39 pm
RE: Refuting Christians with their Own Bible - by SteveII - June 28, 2016 at 11:31 am
RE: Refuting Christians with their Own Bible - by Spirian - June 28, 2016 at 12:50 pm
RE: Refuting Christians with their Own Bible - by Ayen - June 28, 2016 at 6:25 pm
RE: Refuting Christians with their Own Bible - by SteveII - June 28, 2016 at 10:21 pm
RE: Refuting Christians with their Own Bible - by SteveII - June 28, 2016 at 10:23 pm
RE: Refuting Christians with their Own Bible - by SteveII - June 28, 2016 at 10:56 pm
RE: Refuting Christians with their Own Bible - by SteveII - June 28, 2016 at 10:41 pm
RE: Refuting Christians with their Own Bible - by SteveII - June 29, 2016 at 10:14 am
RE: Refuting Christians with their Own Bible - by SteveII - June 29, 2016 at 11:47 am
RE: Refuting Christians with their Own Bible - by SteveII - June 28, 2016 at 11:03 pm
RE: Refuting Christians with their Own Bible - by Ayen - June 28, 2016 at 11:06 pm
RE: Refuting Christians with their Own Bible - by SteveII - June 28, 2016 at 11:21 pm
RE: Refuting Christians with their Own Bible - by SteveII - June 28, 2016 at 11:35 pm
RE: Refuting Christians with their Own Bible - by Ayen - June 29, 2016 at 12:04 am
RE: Refuting Christians with their Own Bible - by Ayen - June 29, 2016 at 10:48 am
RE: Refuting Christians with their Own Bible - by Ayen - June 29, 2016 at 11:11 am
RE: Refuting Christians with their Own Bible - by SteveII - June 29, 2016 at 10:01 pm
RE: Refuting Christians with their Own Bible - by SteveII - June 30, 2016 at 11:13 am
RE: Refuting Christians with their Own Bible - by emjay - June 30, 2016 at 1:19 pm

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