RE: How to Authentically Experience God
April 5, 2009 at 5:19 am
(This post was last modified: April 5, 2009 at 5:20 am by fr0d0.)
(April 4, 2009 at 9:51 pm)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote: Many people feel strongly about many different Gods, many different religions, many different supernatural things....I'd just like to address this point as it covers everything you said I believe. Correct me if I'm wrong...
But they all have in common the fact that their is no evidence for the Gods in ANY of those religions...
Now if it just 'makes sense' to you...it does no good to only say I am over simplifying it or making a 'trivial or and derogatory' analysis...
Give me one reason why your God or ANY supernatural God is really any more valid (in terms of actually existing objectively in reality) than Zeus, The Flying Spaghetti Monster or Santa Claus?
I like the way you put that. No, there is no single reason (in terms of actually existing objectively) my God is more valid. 100% correct. Spot on.
Which is why anything more you say on the subject is immaterial. We both accept that bit. Let's move on.
Kyu Wrote:Religions (all religions) make implicit claims about the universe we live in, a claim (any claim) can be examined and evaluated for its merit or lack thereof ... the significant difference between religious claims and scientific ones is that the former are usually (always?) wrong.
Like I said in the statement you quoted, you're referring to literalist hogwash there. I don't accept that hogwash, so those claims don't apply to me. You can't therefore use them against me. Use them about Christianity as a very wide definition, sure. But doing that you could say almost anything. I don't think it's helpful. I'm trying to present logical reasoning to you for my beliefs. Not someone else's. I can't justify those any more than I could justify yours.
I agree that religious claims in the area of science are wrong. I said so on this forum only yesterday. On this we agree.
