(July 24, 2016 at 8:32 am)Vincent Wrote:(July 24, 2016 at 5:01 am)Godschild Wrote: Listen you little twit I been training dogs for over 30 years and I'm considered quite good, dogs do have an understanding of doing wrong and they show it effectively. You're the moron for not researching what dogs understand and what they do not and I bet your dogs don't obey you one bit, you're probably one of those who have to call their dog a dozen times just to get it's attention, not good around a busy road, and you probably consider that obedience, sad. When I come home and one of my dogs have made a mess I know it immediately from the look on their face and their reaction when I ask what happened all this before I enter the door. Oh hey, no, I spank my dogs very seldom.
GC
Hey GC, my uncle has owned and trained dogs for over 30 years, and every one of them has been so well-behaved he could let them off the leash in his open front yard in front of a street and they still wouldn't venture out of the boundaries set for them.
He's never laid a hand on a single dog.
The fact that you believe a dog cannot learn without being struck quite frankly disgusts me to the core.
I don't care if your disgusted, I've shown dogs for trials and have done very well and have never lost a dog to cars not to say I want anything can happen in an instant. Who said I spanked my dogs for running in the street, I didn't. I said I spanked for extreme disobedience. Buss off.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.