(August 10, 2016 at 5:07 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:(August 10, 2016 at 9:05 am)Drich Wrote:
Are you saying because God does not exist the Jewish people does not exist? Or are you say they are without culture? or are you saying their is no history to said culture???? Because if the Jewish people exist.. and if they have a culture, then despite the importance you place on verifying it's origins, the truth of the matter means, that the Jews have a 'cultural context' from which interpreting their writings must be filtered through for proper and accurate exegesis.
If you 'feel' differently, then Please, explain.. "Prove me wrong/Win this argument."
I actually didn't mean ANY of those things. Obviously I wasn't clear. I'm saying that God is 100% responsible for cultivating Jewish culture, therefore placing god's moral laws into "cultural context" in order to justify them literally makes no sense. That's all I'm saying here because I don't want to derail NV's thread. You know where to find my cultural context thread. Huggy could really use the help, actually. [emoji41]
I think huggy is doing quite well, and does need me parroting back what he has already said.
So to you I ask again which logical fallacy do you see here?
Because despite what how you judge the legitimacy of the Jewish claim that God authored their culture/shaped it. Never the less the by product of their writing and historical actions are filter through this 'cultural context.' To extrapolate a story or a event from this historical context and assign new purpose or new meaning is the fallacy of quoting out of context.
That would be like me dismissing the written history of the Egyptians and how their society was built around their gods because their gods were not real... When in fact, if I am to accurately represent a portion of Egyptian history or literary work I have to translate/explain it meaning through the frame work of their society. (Explain their moral values and why they did what they did.) Rather than foolishly take a story from their literary works and force wrongful judgement through this society's morality. One can do this, but know that is perfect demonstration of self righteousness, and a perfect demonstration of one's inability to be subjective or critical beyond their own sense of self righteousness.
