(August 30, 2016 at 12:42 am)Rhythm Wrote: @The OP, we don't know. There are mutually exclusive positions on that in the western tradition, each one has it's use...and it's drawbacks. That probably accounts for western philosophies "failure" to acknowledge your boy. We have our own that say the same thing, and slightly dissimilar but still related things.
You're mistaken about Kant and unicorns though. Kant would probably tell you that unicorns -aren't-...lol, but that the person making the claim must at least believe they are - to be describing them in the first place - or barring that, must mean such a sentence in a way that doesn;t refer to their existence as animals out there in the wild. If someone says that unicorns are white, they are saying that unicorns are real world objects (and there's at least one sense of this statement that could be completely factual, btw)..regardless of how ridiculous that may sound to me, or to you, or to Kant. Saying that unicorns aren't real doesn't actually address Kants point...and isn't, strictly speaking, a factual statement in any case.
His point was that a red apple and a red apple that exists are the same thing. A thing must exist to have properties, such as the having the property of a specific color. Conversely, that it is incoherent to consider a nonexistent red apple. If it doesn't exist..it isn't red, or an apple.
Uh, but there are nonexistent red apples. Nonexistent red apples exist - in my dreams
But seriously though. Let's suppose that I had a dream about red apples. These apples were red, but they weren't actually existent (unless you're one of those types who believe that our dreams are actually projections into other real universes, but I doubt you're of that type).
Consider an imaginary red apple. Imaginary red apples are red, but not all of them necessarily exist.
My imagination and dreams have, as you can now see, refuted one of the most celebrated Western philosophers! Mwahahahaha!
Anyhow, I couldn't think of any "drawbacks" of using existence as a real predicate, as argued by Sadra. That is why I started this thread in the first place; I want to see if there are any problems or "drawbacks" to what he argued.
