Is there objective Truth?

[Soldat Du Christ]

Of course! Maybe a little too formal calling me sir alot, lol, but still refreshing. If you are okay with it i still have questions and propositions. Just can't tell if you are done or not so feel free to ignore me or call it quits.

So i'm curious to know what you mean when you imply something other than human sense making, as being a possible alternitive.

And rythm made me realise somthing i havn't been direct about, and that is, i see worldviews, and epistemology as being structured. While the contrary it's more of a mish mash of beliefs and facts, and you are just attempting to connect all the dots is that correct? Like a big puzzle piece of life? In that light, i comprehend alot more about the points you where making before.

Thanks for your response, Soldat Du Christ.  I think you are starting to understand my inquiries.  I like your "big puzzle piece of life" phrase. 

Now if this is correct or mostly correct, could you could give me your synopsis on the idea of these different ways to visualise a world view. (Negate the supernaturalism vs naturalism atm)

Unfortunately, my position is one of uncertainty. As a result, I do not think I'm capable of giving a meaningful and original response to your inquiry.  However, IMO, if theists and non-theists were to suspend their judgement of one another and be open to what each one has to bring to the table, then perhaps a new way of thinking can emerge, which will aid humanity in their quest to find objective truth.

I'm glad we are on the same page! That to me is important. Unfortunetly, the christian position is that we do have the truth of life. We have a proper explanation for laws, logic, objective morality. The reason why we fell behind in education, and succesively led to the ignorant christian stigma, is because that's not what's important in our word view. Love god, love your neighbor. That's all that is demanded of us. If you love god you will do your best to live how he intended for us. And if you love others you would do your best to help them find grace in gods eyes. Serve them, love them, pray for them. This life is realy nothing, no amount of comfort, or misery, makes a difference in the end.

Now erlier you say you think recognising universalism raises more questions than answers. I can't understand how one could see it that way, when there is an obvious answer. Even if you decline that answer, recognising objectivity is still a more sane, and cohisive than trying put the pieces together in a world without order IMO. I think it's a losing battle. And i'm also starting to realise that these are irreconcilable differences...