RE: Is there objective Truth?
October 21, 2016 at 3:46 pm
(This post was last modified: October 21, 2016 at 4:06 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(October 21, 2016 at 3:40 pm)Kernel Sohcahtoa Wrote: I was referring to the crusades actually.Meh, just a war. Like any war...there are the reasons we go, and there are the strings those who send us pull. I don;t see those as particularly christian atrocities, or barbarism in the first place.
(you're talking to a joe)
Quote:I agree that this is an ineffective approach in resolving this issue; however, this is not the approach I'm suggesting. I have shared a personal and direct experience and observation that I have had with other Christians, namely that they say that their beliefs are based in love, understanding, and peace. Hence, I'm seeking to understand that idea from their point of view.Their point of view is, necessarily, a christian pov...vicarious redemption through blood sacrifice. Otherwise you're not asking them anything related to christianity in the first place.
Quote:Does every Christian agree with you on this point or is this ultimately how you make sense of Christianity?Well, the offer is on the board.... any of them can come and deny the vicarious redemption through blood sacrifice, offered by jesus on the cross, and available through no other means. "Peace and understanding" won't get you through the gates, my friend. Not to a -christian-. I'm sure we can find some non-heterodox nutters here and there.....but I don't think that's who we're discussing, and you won;t find many here in any case, eh? The notion that every christian would agree on anything is, ultimately, laughable...but if they don't agree on the subject of christ...not a name, a title...in what way would they be christians to begin with? It's the lone non-negotiable thing in the entire theology.
I wouldn't hold my breath waiting, if I were you. That they might call this "peace and understanding" is no different than you calling the furry thing in the corner "cat" and my buddy Juan calling it "gato". In their defense...it certainly sounds better as an affirmation of faith acceptable in a college environment than "torturing a jew for all the bad shit I've done".
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