(April 16, 2009 at 6:03 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: What I'm talking about when referring to Catholics though, is something different. Catholic means to me a member of the Catholic church. It isn't, to the best of my understanding, a requirement of membership of the Catholic Church that you aim to follow Jesus as expressly stipulated in the Bible. That you make a conscious decision, entirely under your own steam, to believe that Jesus died for your sins and you act on that.
Given that the Catholic Church claims to be founded by Jesus in 33CE and also claims to be based on his teachings (via St. Paul) then I think it is reasonable (despite your objections) to consider them as Christians.
Kyu
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