RE: Is there objective Truth?
October 24, 2016 at 12:10 pm
(This post was last modified: October 24, 2016 at 12:11 pm by Whateverist.)
(October 24, 2016 at 1:31 am)Soldat Du Christ Wrote:(October 24, 2016 at 1:20 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: You seem to have a thing for justification, which is why I referenced the PSR. No, brute fact is saying that it doesn't depend upon something else, it just is by virtue of being what it is. For what its worth, objectivity is best justified through intersubjective validation. I fail to see how this situation is improved by inserting God. Regardless, you've yet to justify that objectivity requires a God, given that your main argument is a failure. And postulating that God is the source of objectivity requires more work than you've put in so far. You seem interested in gotcha arguments. However, your main gotcha is a bust. If you have another argument, or evidence that objectivity requires God, please present it.
I already know you reject "binary thinking", you volunteered to follow along, so don't fall back to intersubjective validation. If you refuse to entertain the idea than so be it.
So you claim that it is self existing/ self justified? That's not exactly a justification. We could use that same logic and apply it to realy anything if we wanted to. We don't because there are more proper explanations for things.
I would answer that the notion that we, this simian biped, should be able to justify everything or else reject the existence of an independent (objective) world, is a far more ambitious claim than the claim that an independent world really exists. We have to make do with what we are and what we have. Optimized explanations are the best we have. They will do.