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Another apologist with his "clever" questions
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RE: Another apologist with his "clever" questions
(October 26, 2016 at 12:30 am)FallentoReason Wrote: I think in a world where this jerk of a god exists, things would be different, as in, our perception and logical constructs would fit around that reality.
Why?  More god koolaid. People think and say things like "if god existed, the world would be more or less of x" without ever explaining why...wihout ever voicing all of those silent assumptions. Allow me to propose an alternative..no matter what god is, or isn't..the world would be exactly -as- it is.

Quote:Kant comes to mind, how he thinks morality is nothing more than an agent acting rationally.
I'd disagree heartily with that, morality and rationality are rarely, if ever, the same things.  We can rationally act upon moral precepts, we can rationalize over moral precepts...but where is the reason in any specific moral precept?

Quote:If we for a second entertain that idea as being the true interpretation of morality, then a world where a seemingly trivial god with seemingly ammoral rules exists, we would come to the rational conclusion that it must be "good".
Why? What's rational in the sentence above, connect the dots?

Quote:All of this is based on the assumption that since this god created that universe, it also set in place its ammoral metaphysics as being *the* abstract truths. 
What does the ammoral have to do with the moral?  

Quote:As far as worship goes, I don't know if I would bow down in a religious way, but I would definitely revere and acknowledge it?
Why would you, is the question?  If you had a father who beat the shit out of you, would you "revere and acknowledge" that?  

Quote:Much like a scientists reveres physical laws. Much like a mathematician reveres axioms. Much like an artist reveres beauty where ever it's found.
Pointless equivocations.  We're talking gods, not physics, maths, art...or any of the various practitioners.  If god was a dick, would you "acknowledge and revere" it?  I wouldn't.  I couldn't care less.  There are plenty of dicks that exist irl, I;m neither acknowledging them specifically nor am I revering them.  If they all jumped off a cliff like the proverbial swine of christ - I wouldn't bat an eyelid. Should it be different if the dick in question were a god? How about a "nice guy" god, a buddy christ? What's the relevance, who cares, why? Good god, bad god, neutral god, what's the difference?
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RE: Another apologist with his "clever" questions - by comet - October 21, 2016 at 8:55 pm
RE: Another apologist with his "clever" questions - by comet - October 22, 2016 at 7:05 am
RE: Another apologist with his "clever" questions - by Lek - October 22, 2016 at 3:01 pm
RE: Another apologist with his "clever" questions - by Lek - October 24, 2016 at 2:07 pm
RE: Another apologist with his "clever" questions - by Lek - October 24, 2016 at 8:52 pm
RE: Another apologist with his "clever" questions - by Lek - October 25, 2016 at 11:54 am
RE: Another apologist with his "clever" questions - by Lek - October 25, 2016 at 12:26 pm
RE: Another apologist with his "clever" questions - by Lek - October 25, 2016 at 1:07 pm
RE: Another apologist with his "clever" questions - by Lek - October 25, 2016 at 1:40 pm
RE: Another apologist with his "clever" questions - by comet - October 25, 2016 at 6:18 pm
RE: Another apologist with his "clever" questions - by Lek - October 28, 2016 at 12:22 pm
RE: Another apologist with his "clever" questions - by comet - October 22, 2016 at 2:51 pm
RE: Another apologist with his "clever" questions - by Lek - October 22, 2016 at 4:09 pm
RE: Another apologist with his "clever" questions - by Lek - October 25, 2016 at 5:22 pm
RE: Another apologist with his "clever" questions - by Lek - October 28, 2016 at 3:49 pm
RE: Another apologist with his "clever" questions - by Lek - October 28, 2016 at 8:58 pm
RE: Another apologist with his "clever" questions - by The Grand Nudger - October 26, 2016 at 12:58 am
RE: Another apologist with his "clever" questions - by Plixin - November 11, 2016 at 3:31 pm

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