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Progress...
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RE: Progress...
(June 4, 2011 at 6:45 pm)Cinjin Cain Wrote:
(June 4, 2011 at 2:45 pm)Zenith Wrote:
(May 31, 2011 at 12:09 pm)Cinjin Cain Wrote: You can't do away with all religion. It's a pipe dream. Best we can hope for is a few thousand more years of educating the masses.

How exactly would you do that? And what that education would be like?

We just keep doing what we're doing. Change nothing, save one thing ... stop teaching religion.
I expected a more... specific, and more detailed explanation (like a plan or something). For instance, how exactly would you stop teaching religion? How would that education be like? you mean showing everywhere the flaws of religions, or what exactly does this "education" mean to you? And you would educate them in schools, using the TV, or how?

I hope I'm not annoying you. I'm only curios of the methods you think of.


(June 4, 2011 at 7:34 pm)bozo Wrote: On a personal level, I am sufficiently smug to know that all the religious are going to be bitterly disappointed when they die and that's it.
Fairytales will never die. Instead, they will only be replaced with other ones. If you think about the modern religions (satanist religions like the church of satan; wicca; Kabbalah; Scientology, etc.) which are also full of fairytales and are modern (based on science - some even use that word as the foundation of the institution) then it is not hard to imagine that even before the old religions die (if they would indeed die) others will already take their place, and you'll have one fairytale replaced by another - big deal.

By the way, Kabbalah does not call itself as "religion": I have once read from a site of theirs "Kabbalah is not a religion, it is a science of reality", or something like that (the funny thing is that any religion would call itself as a science of reality) - but from what I've read about them, both Kabbalah and Scientology fit very well in that category. In Kabbalah, for instance, it is taught that a man, with his mind can split the waters of a sea in two and stuff like that.

As about Scientology, read this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientology..._practices Wrote:


And these are modern (i.e. newly appeared) religions! Imagine other people starting with aliens or who knows what.

Point is: I don't see a big difference between muslims who say "at the end all will be muslims", the christians who say "in the end all will be christians" and atheists who say "In the end all will be atheists". It's just great desire and fantasy to all of them (that's my strong personal opinion).
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Progress... - by Tiberius - May 26, 2011 at 12:58 pm
RE: Progress... - by Faith No More - May 26, 2011 at 3:43 pm
RE: Progress... - by Doubting Thomas - May 26, 2011 at 6:18 pm
RE: Progress... - by DeistPaladin - May 26, 2011 at 9:28 pm
RE: Progress... - by Minimalist - May 26, 2011 at 9:48 pm
RE: Progress... - by Statler Waldorf - May 26, 2011 at 7:19 pm
RE: Progress... - by Tiberius - May 26, 2011 at 7:31 pm
RE: Progress... - by Statler Waldorf - May 26, 2011 at 7:41 pm
RE: Progress... - by theVOID - May 26, 2011 at 8:28 pm
RE: Progress... - by Jaysyn - May 27, 2011 at 10:49 am
RE: Progress... - by Timothy - May 28, 2011 at 6:10 am
RE: Progress... - by Cinjin - May 28, 2011 at 10:31 am
RE: Progress... - by Timothy - May 28, 2011 at 2:12 pm
RE: Progress... - by Cinjin - May 28, 2011 at 4:52 pm
RE: Progress... - by Timothy - May 28, 2011 at 5:40 pm
RE: Progress... - by Cinjin - May 28, 2011 at 6:07 pm
RE: Progress... - by fr0d0 - May 28, 2011 at 6:46 pm
RE: Progress... - by Cinjin - May 28, 2011 at 6:47 pm
RE: Progress... - by Violet - May 29, 2011 at 3:27 pm
RE: Progress... - by Zenith - May 30, 2011 at 7:44 am
RE: Progress... - by reverendjeremiah - May 30, 2011 at 4:21 pm
RE: Progress... - by Zenith - May 30, 2011 at 5:15 pm
RE: Progress... - by Violet - May 30, 2011 at 6:04 pm
RE: Progress... - by Napoléon - May 28, 2011 at 10:55 am
RE: Progress... - by Minimalist - May 26, 2011 at 8:37 pm
RE: Progress... - by HeyItsZeus - May 26, 2011 at 9:38 pm
RE: Progress... - by reverendjeremiah - May 26, 2011 at 10:35 pm
RE: Progress... - by Doubting Thomas - May 27, 2011 at 10:26 am
RE: Progress... - by Tiberius - May 27, 2011 at 12:10 pm
RE: Progress... - by Jaysyn - May 27, 2011 at 12:20 pm
RE: Progress... - by Minimalist - May 27, 2011 at 12:33 pm
RE: Progress... - by Tiberius - May 27, 2011 at 12:51 pm
RE: Progress... - by Jaysyn - May 27, 2011 at 1:54 pm
RE: Progress... - by LastPoet - May 27, 2011 at 1:35 pm
RE: Progress... - by Minimalist - May 27, 2011 at 2:00 pm
RE: Progress... - by Jaysyn - May 27, 2011 at 2:17 pm
RE: Progress... - by Dean-o - May 27, 2011 at 2:04 pm
RE: Progress... - by Tiberius - May 27, 2011 at 2:22 pm
RE: Progress... - by Napoléon - May 27, 2011 at 2:34 pm
RE: Progress... - by Minimalist - May 27, 2011 at 3:11 pm
RE: Progress... - by Tiberius - May 27, 2011 at 11:38 pm
RE: Progress... - by Statler Waldorf - May 27, 2011 at 3:33 pm
RE: Progress... - by reverendjeremiah - May 27, 2011 at 8:54 pm
RE: Progress... - by Cinjin - May 28, 2011 at 2:34 am
RE: Progress... - by Zen Badger - May 28, 2011 at 5:47 am
RE: Progress... - by Napoléon - May 28, 2011 at 6:18 pm
RE: Progress... - by Timothy - May 28, 2011 at 6:36 pm
RE: Progress... - by Napoléon - May 28, 2011 at 6:52 pm
RE: Progress... - by Timothy - May 28, 2011 at 7:08 pm
RE: Progress... - by fr0d0 - May 28, 2011 at 6:53 pm
RE: Progress... - by Cinjin - May 28, 2011 at 7:00 pm
RE: Progress... - by fr0d0 - May 28, 2011 at 9:56 pm
RE: Progress... - by Cinjin - May 28, 2011 at 10:20 pm
RE: Progress... - by fr0d0 - May 29, 2011 at 5:49 am
RE: Progress... - by Zenith - May 29, 2011 at 9:29 am
RE: Progress... - by Faith No More - May 29, 2011 at 9:43 am
RE: Progress... - by reverendjeremiah - May 29, 2011 at 10:28 am
RE: Progress... - by Cinjin - May 30, 2011 at 7:13 pm
RE: Progress... - by Zenith - May 31, 2011 at 10:32 am
RE: Progress... - by Cinjin - May 31, 2011 at 11:14 am
RE: Progress... - by Zenith - May 31, 2011 at 12:03 pm
RE: Progress... - by Napoléon - May 31, 2011 at 12:05 pm
RE: Progress... - by Cinjin - May 31, 2011 at 12:09 pm
RE: Progress... - by Zenith - June 4, 2011 at 2:45 pm
RE: Progress... - by Cinjin - June 4, 2011 at 6:45 pm
RE: Progress... - by Zenith - June 5, 2011 at 2:29 pm
RE: Progress... - by Cinjin - June 5, 2011 at 3:23 pm
RE: Progress... - by Zenith - June 8, 2011 at 4:58 pm
RE: Progress... - by Cinjin - June 8, 2011 at 5:50 pm
RE: Progress... - by Ashendant - June 5, 2011 at 3:51 pm
RE: Progress... - by fr0d0 - May 31, 2011 at 1:50 pm
RE: Progress... - by Napoléon - May 31, 2011 at 2:31 pm
RE: Progress... - by Statler Waldorf - June 2, 2011 at 1:12 am
RE: Progress... - by Cinjin - June 2, 2011 at 1:24 am
RE: Progress... - by Statler Waldorf - June 2, 2011 at 1:49 am
RE: Progress... - by Napoléon - June 2, 2011 at 11:32 am
RE: Progress... - by Ace Otana - June 2, 2011 at 11:43 am
RE: Progress... - by Violet - June 2, 2011 at 1:56 pm
RE: Progress... - by Cinjin - June 2, 2011 at 3:27 pm
RE: Progress... - by reverendjeremiah - June 2, 2011 at 3:40 pm
RE: Progress... - by fr0d0 - May 31, 2011 at 3:30 pm
RE: Progress... - by Napoléon - May 31, 2011 at 4:49 pm
RE: Progress... - by Violet - June 2, 2011 at 3:32 pm
RE: Progress... - by Cinjin - June 2, 2011 at 3:36 pm
RE: Progress... - by Violet - June 2, 2011 at 4:02 pm
RE: Progress... - by reverendjeremiah - June 2, 2011 at 4:04 pm
RE: Progress... - by Violet - June 2, 2011 at 4:09 pm
RE: Progress... - by Cinjin - June 2, 2011 at 4:18 pm
RE: Progress... - by Violet - June 2, 2011 at 4:40 pm
RE: Progress... - by reverendjeremiah - June 2, 2011 at 5:45 pm
RE: Progress... - by Violet - June 2, 2011 at 6:04 pm
RE: Progress... - by bozo - June 4, 2011 at 7:34 pm
RE: Progress... - by Napoléon - June 4, 2011 at 7:36 pm
RE: Progress... - by bozo - June 9, 2011 at 3:57 pm

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