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Why I Don't Want To Be An Atheist
RE: Why I Don't Want To Be An Atheist
Drich, here is the background article put out by the Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences, in support of the 2013 Nobel Physics award:

http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/p...ze2013.pdf

Pay special attention to the conclusion of the article, quoted here: 

"All measurements to date confirm that the properties of the newly discovered particle are consistent with those expected for the fundamental scalar boson predicted by the BEHmechanism. The discovery is a milestone for particle physics and a tremendous success for the Standard Model. However, far from closing the book it opens a number of new exciting possibilities: Theorists believe that the SM most probably is but a low-energy approximation of a more complete theory. If this were not so, quantum mechanical corrections to the Higgs mass would drive mH towards the Planck scale – unless “unnatural” cancellations occur. Therefore, extensions of the SM are proposed, keeping the successful features of the SM but at the same time introducing “new physics” in a way, which stabilises mH at its low value, which is in accordance with SM expectations (fig. 1). Supersymmetric extensions of the SM predict in their minimal form the existence of five Higgs bosons, three neutral and two charged. The lightest of the neutrals should have couplings similar to the SM Higgs and a mass below 130 GeV/c2. An alternative is “Little Higgs” models where new strong interactions are introduced at the scale (of tens) of TeV. The lightest scalar in these models also resembles the SM Higgs. In yet other models, electro-weak symmetry breaking can be achieved without introducing fundamental scalar fields but with composite scalar or pseudo-scalar new particles. In some of these theories, a composite light scalar could mimic the Higgs. In addition certain models, which explore addition of extra space dimensions beyond the standard 3+1 spacetime, may also feature a Higgs-like particle. For a discussion of all these models see [62].
 
To discriminate between these theories one would – apart from searching for additional new particles – need to precisely measure the Higgs boson self-coupling. Unfortunately, such a measurement has to wait for the presently discussed High Luminosity LHC (HL-LHC) and will be challenging even then since the Higgs pair production cross section is small. What can be done on a much shorter time scale is to precisely measure the mass and the branching fractions of the Higgs and search for its rare decays. Persistent deviations from SM expectations will help distinguish between the different theoretical possibilities. 
 
The year 2015, when the LHC in 2015 finally reaches its design parameters, will in this sense mark the start of a new era, that of precision Higgs measurements."

Far from being fooled, much less defrauded, it appears that the people responsible for awarding the 2013 Nobel knew exactly what they were doing.
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