RE: The positive case for voting Hillary Clinton for president.
November 4, 2016 at 3:08 pm
(This post was last modified: November 4, 2016 at 3:22 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(November 4, 2016 at 1:12 pm)Whateverist Wrote: No, I can't allow you that out. Everyone who can do anything about it will share an equal responsibility for either doing that little something they could have done or for holding out for pie in the sky (assholes) or for falling for Trump's totalitarian fantasies (suckers). If Clinton goes on an imperialist military crusade I'm more than ready to own my bad. You boys just be ready to do the same.What would I be responsible for, not voting for clinton before she went on an imperialist rampage? Not voting for trump before he goes full hitler? Not sure how that works. Look, it's your game, you feel compelled to play. You're satisfied with the rules and the players. You are complicit and cooperating. I am not.
(November 4, 2016 at 2:35 pm)Whateverist Wrote: Thanks. Sometimes I need to be reminded just how grimy the politicians I'm in bed with really are. It is what I suspect going in but, you know, there are natural filtering processes which dampen the cognitive dissonance. Still I don't expect politics to be anything other than practical, involving many compromises with many devils. Now to refocus on the good she is also trying to bring about if she can and my gratitude to her for making all those faustian bargains and taking on what to me seems the most odious of jobs. There, that's better.See, you think she's made a faustian bargain in an odious job. I propose to you that the good she's done, loudly, was the bargain she made..so that she could do the far greater sum of things that she -doesn't- like to harp about in a taped interview...and that she likes the job very, very much.
I do appreciate that you agree with some policies of hers and think shes a credible candidate whose done good - you should vote for her. I won't because I don't actually attribute "the good she's done" to her anymore than I attribute all the labor in the field to myself...I'm just the public face. Meanwhile...I -don't- agree with her policies, and on more than a few issues I don't think she actually has one - just ad copy that tested well.
Surely we can both stand on our relative principles and assessments...which aren't beyond the pale of reasonable expectations in either case, not examples of starry eyed dreaming -or- rampant cynicism. You want her to continue doing the sorts of things she's been doing. I don't. I won't blame you if trump gets elected, you can extend the courtesy to me. The worst I'll accuse you of if hillary gets elected is being swindled,and cmon, we've all been swindled once or twice. No sweat off our sacks..it;s not like you're going to throw yourself off a bridge if she doesn't live up to your expectations...and I won't be doing that either if she -does- live up to mine. I'll just wait four more years to see if the next batch of corpses they prop up are even remotely acceptable ( )....and so will you.
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