RE: On Logic and Alternate Universes
November 6, 2016 at 12:25 pm
(This post was last modified: November 6, 2016 at 12:29 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Ham, you're an idiot, you think that you're arguing with -me-.
I'm not disputing that it holds, I obviously think that it does. I've told you, so many times now, that I agree with you. The op lobbed a ridiculous "axiom sexism" charge at me n the last thread precisely because I do think it holds, and tailor my responses to the op proposition to conform with logical rules as I know them, lol.
Unfortunately, in the hypothetical,it doesn't -matter- whether or not it holds and so long as the op proposes a universe with different laws it doesn't -have- to hold, whether or not -we- are right about that...because, in that universe, even if the law of identity holds, 2+2 still yields the sum of 5. It's a different universe, different shit happens because of different rules. 5 -is- the identity of the sum of two and two, in that universe, if the law holds...but obviously there must be some other things that are different about that universe to make it such that the identity of the sum here and there is different, to break the law -between- universes.
I'm not disputing that it holds, I obviously think that it does. I've told you, so many times now, that I agree with you. The op lobbed a ridiculous "axiom sexism" charge at me n the last thread precisely because I do think it holds, and tailor my responses to the op proposition to conform with logical rules as I know them, lol.
Unfortunately, in the hypothetical,it doesn't -matter- whether or not it holds and so long as the op proposes a universe with different laws it doesn't -have- to hold, whether or not -we- are right about that...because, in that universe, even if the law of identity holds, 2+2 still yields the sum of 5. It's a different universe, different shit happens because of different rules. 5 -is- the identity of the sum of two and two, in that universe, if the law holds...but obviously there must be some other things that are different about that universe to make it such that the identity of the sum here and there is different, to break the law -between- universes.
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