On Moral Authorities

[robvalue]

I think that most objections to an objective morality are more disagreement as to the sense in which a person means the term.  You'll find plenty of people willing to state -both- that sexual abuse is objectively morally wrong...while also acknowledging that morality -is- subjective.  For me, it hardly matters whether it's subjective or objective.  I certainly think that sexual abuse is wrong everywhere for everyone and at all times....but if a person insists that this is "just, like, your opinion...man" then yeah, sure...why not...I'll let em have it regardless of whether or not I agree on it being just my opinion - because, after all...it -is- my opinion.   OFC, after having said such a thing, I would doubt their moral agency, lol.

Too many words are wasted on subtle shifts in frames of reference.

The problem here is that once something has been categorised as sexual abuse, the judgement has already been made. Yet two people may not agree on what is and isn't abuse. I would be pretty sure you, I and most people on the forum would happily agree on what counts. But for our rape apologists and such, they have different ideas.

Does that disgust me? Absolutely. But if any progress is to be made, discussions must be had where this difference of opinion is challenged rather than dismissed. It may be there's just not enough common ground of course.