RE: God exists subjectively?
November 13, 2016 at 4:43 am
(This post was last modified: November 13, 2016 at 4:47 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(November 13, 2016 at 2:43 am)theologian Wrote: 1. Agree. However, does the sound argument for God's existence starts with things evident or not? Further, if you want evidence only with logical process, do you deny then the laws of logic?If you're asking me whether or not the arguments I've seen start with evident things, the answer would be no..more often than not. Sometimes they manage that, though, and fail elsewhere. Not sure why I;d want to deny "the laws of logic" (lol?)......but I guess that's the next step on your missionary flowchart, so, have at it.
Quote:2. So, if the starting point of arguments are evidence, and sound arguments has both true evidence and valid reasoning, should the conclusion be contradicting the evidence? If not, then why not accept arguments?You mean to ask why I don't believe in god or accept arguments for god, here, yes? Because they either -don't- refer to evident and true propositions, or they -don't- contain valid reasoning....and very often it's both. If the religious did have an argument like the one you describe above, they'd have made everyone aware of it by now. They don't, you don't....and in my case, it hardly matters anyway. The fact that I don't believe and have never been presented with a compelling argument has nothing to do with why I'm not a christian, or a muslim, or any of the rest. Wouldn't be if there were a god, if I did believe or I had been presented with a compelling argument.
Makes it all kind of pointless, doesn't it?
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