RE: Trump won the white working-man vote..
November 18, 2016 at 4:43 pm
(This post was last modified: November 18, 2016 at 4:45 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(November 18, 2016 at 4:24 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: I can only go by what you post. You seem to really like posting about how racist Trump voters are, despite not caring whether they're right or not.Right about what?
Right about some other thing? Sure, why not. In addition to being able to be good people, loved by friends and family, and racist...they can also be right about something. Why on earth is that even a question?
Quote:The definition of bigot includes not being able to change your mind on the topic in question. By that definition, not all racists are bigots. The ones that aren't can learn better.You mean the exceptions that prove the rule, lol?
Quote:I live in South Carolina. I've had successes with this conversation...when I can remember to have a conversation instead of an argument. I certainly have an easier time with a good natured young white man who has been fed a lot of false information than with any of the alt.right crowd....but I think a lot of alt-righters started as misinformed young white men who could have been reached if someone had that conversation sooner. I used to be one of those misinformed but well-intentioned young white man...and if I hadn't had minority friends to give me a very kind and gentle reality check, there's no telling how far down the rabbit hole I might have gone.Stared into the abyss, belly of the beast sort of thing, eh? I've already told you I don't have this ability to unracist racists...so, what can I say, I guess it's nice that some people do though I have my doubts regarding this anecdote as I have regarding any anecdote.
Quote:When I enter 'black on white crime' into Google, the first site that comes up is a racist fake news site. Hundreds of millions of dollars have been spent on feeding false narratives to people who don't have the tools to unpack what's being done to them (and also making sure they don't get those tools), and it's been a very successful (though un-united)campaign that Trump had nothing to do with and predates any inkling he was going to run for office. There's no mastermind behind it, at least not just one. Just a general recognition that you can manipulate people by making them scared into voting certain ways and buying certain stuff; and efforts that dovetail into one another and reinforce each other without an overarching design being needed. A synergy of hatefulness and fear-mongering. I'm way more angry at the manipulators than the manipulated. It may be too late for your racist aunt, but maybe not too late for your racist cousin.There's an awfully fine line between the manipulators and the manipulated in any discussion of social or cultural mores. We look to each other and our institutions for validation, after all. It may not be useful for everyone to point and laugh "lolbigot", but it would be absurd to suggest that no one should or that this doesn't have value. That voice needs to be present when we look to our left and right, searching for validation of those positions, otherwise it's absence can be and often is taken to be verification of the decency and accuracy of the position. Just like watching a racist, who runs a racist campaign......winning the office of the presidency...on the backs of the votes of our dearest loved ones....has been.
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