(November 18, 2016 at 7:35 pm)abaris Wrote: Why does it always have to be over your obsession with religion?
That's certainly not about that. The previous comment about pro life was about it. It made me shake my head in disbelief for the first time. Equating someone not calling for restricting already existing laws with a baby killer and putting them on the same level as someone degrading minorities and being endorsed by the KKK.
The X, Y, Z isn't a race isn't religious. Only stupid. And in many cases used to wiggle out of being called out for bigotry.
No Abris it is not an obsession. Scientists do literally have an answer to explain why bad logic leads to religion. I am betting you have read Dakwin's God Delusion and would also bet that you have read Victor Stenger's "The New Atheism".
Even Sam Harris has argued this about well intended liberals. It is well intended to give someone the benefit of the doubt, but again, the logic someone uses to justify having a religion is still ultimately flawed logic, and that DOES lead to things like racism. But with Sam I do find that ironic because he wont apply that to Buddhists, and there are most certainly divisions between them.
If you remove the cloak of religion then the "otherism" cannot be defended logically because that other person is no longer "other".
Pro life is a majority position that religions use to seek to ban it. Pro choice is ALSO argued by the liberal left whom point to the kinder Jesus in the NT whom say don't judge. Atheists on the other hand, simply try to argue their positions from science. It isn't impossible for an atheist to be pro life, but far more unlikely that it gets beyond a personal choice.
Look, all of that IS used as a distraction that religion DOES cause racism. I have been called racist by a Hindu, despite being able to point out atheists born in India. I have been called racist by Buddhists too. I mostly deal with our right wing who try to equate minorities to reverse racism.
Race IS attached to religion, to say it isn't is wrong. If it were not racism would not exist.
It has more to do with the concept of the idea of religion than an individual. Not all religious people are racist, no, but religion is still the root cause of it. If both sides under an umbrella label use the same texts and have the same heros they will justify their positions, and racism is the result of ignoring that. It is more pronounced when the skin color and borders are further away. It is why a white rural Christian has different politics and interpretations of the same club than an Urban African American.
It is why Hindus murdered a Muslim for killing a cow. It is why Buddhist have murdered Muslims in Asia. It is why Jews and Muslims murder each other in Palestine and Israel. Religion teaches tribalism, and that tribalism hides behind words like race and ethnic and culture. You cant get rid of either religion or racism on a planet of 7 billion, but you can educate more humans to understand where the roots of our divisions come from, including the causes of racism.
