Catholic_Lady Wrote:abaris Wrote:No, it doesn't sound ignorant because the same sentiment is behind it. Regardless if someone hates muslims, jews, Mexicans or cyclists. It's always the same primitive instinct of hating the other. That's not a pet peeve -pardon my french - that's mirror jerking over semantics.
And as I've repeated 3 times now, I do think it's just as wrong to discriminate based on religious beliefs as it is to discriminate based on race. The fact that I'm pointing out that Muslim is a religion, does not diminish how wrong it is to discriminate against them. My sentiments are the same as yours.
Holy moly.
As for whether or not it sounds ignorant to refer to a religious belief as a race, well we'll just have to disagree on that.
I can see why you're confused by the response you're getting. Some atheists here have gone on rants about how Islam isn't a race, so it's not a theist/atheist thing.
The issues with pointing out that nuance are that it sounds like a 'yes, but...'. "Police shouldn't be shooting so many black people." "Yes, but if they weren't breaking the law, police wouldn't shoot them." The other issue that comes to mind is that disentangling race from religion isn't so simple. Sure, there are Muslims of all races; but in the minds of many (if not most) anti-Muslim bigots, their dislike is tangled up with their mental image of a brown person/foreigner/not-as-white-as-me other. By focusing on the religion, it gives racists cover to hate people of color without being called on their racism.
Ordinarily, I'm all for semantic quibbling; but people who associate anti-Muslim bigotry with racism are not really wrong, even though literal racism might not be involved for some people who dislike Muslims, and it's highly unlikely that they actually don't know Muslim isn't really a race.
Not trying to beat up on you, just trying to provide some perspective.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
