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Atheists, tell me, a Roman Catholic: why should I become an atheist?
RE: Atheists, tell me, a Roman Catholic: why should I become an atheist?
(November 30, 2016 at 4:37 pm)Tazzycorn Wrote:
(November 29, 2016 at 7:47 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Both statements are false, sir.

No they are not. I live in a country where until 1974 a married woman was legally her husband's non-wasting chattel, ie with the same legal status as the dining table, because it was based on catholic theology which hasn't changed since then.

Regarding women's power within the church, how many women were part of the conclave which settled definitively the church's position on the family and women's reproductive rights? 0, yes that's right not one woman involved. Face facts c_l you're part of a church that considers you a thing, or at best a slave.

Then I'd say that sounds like a cultural thing more than any sort of official Church teaching. If you are saying Catholic theology teaches that women are objects, the burden is on you to show the Catechism verse that states such. 

Your comment was that women's senior most position in the Church is a flower arranger. Yes, that comment is 100% false. 
But anyway, as far as reproductive rights go - our teaching on abortion is based on our teaching concerning human dignity and the belief that it is immoral to take away innocent human life. It is not based on a belief that women are objects. Ironically enough, it is a fundamental belief that every human being has inherent and equal dignity, regardless of anything. Including age and gender.  

Also ironically enough, my aunt's pro life stance, which stemmed from her Catholicism, is what saved my sister when she was in my teenage mom's womb. Because SHE, a woman, was/is not an object or a "thing." But a human being who deserves to stay alive.
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-walsh
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RE: Atheists, tell me, a Roman Catholic: why should I become an atheist? - by Catholic_Lady - November 30, 2016 at 5:07 pm

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