(June 17, 2011 at 5:51 pm)Napoleon Wrote:(June 17, 2011 at 5:38 pm)bozo Wrote: Nap, I take it we're serious now?! I am against c.p. because it is inevitable that innocent people will be executed. Now, next problem, you want selectve c.p......how would you get agreement on what constitutes " terrible crimes "?
Next, I am not impressed at c.p. being a financial answer to such a big issue.
Innocent people are killed all the time, I'd only have the death penalty when there is conclusive proof that someone has commited the crime in question. Literally so that it is only used when there is no doubt someone has commited the crime.
Selective c.p agreement? You put up a proposal, let people vote and then a law is passed. That's how things are usually done in democracy.
I see no problem with eliminating waste. Which is what the death penalty would be used for. There are lifers in prison for heinous crimes, and frankly there is NO financial argument for tax payers to be paying to feed these twats.
This is all just my opinion, and I fully understand the other spectrum of the argument and where I think you're coming from. It doesn't bother me too much what the government decides to do either way, i'm just saying what I think.
I'm sure all of these people defending prisoners rights would change their minds if it was their families that were murdered.
Nap, taking your points in order:-
Guilt can never be conclusive, otherwise miscarriages of justice would never happen....but they do.Innocent people still end up incarcerated or executed.
I maybe misunderstood your argument about " selectivism ". I thought you meant some crimes to be more deserving of the death penalty than others. I still think you mean that, if so, I repeat my question as to how do you select those crimes?
I reject your idea of killing for reasons of saving money.
I respect any opposite oppinion to mine on this subject.
I reject your final inferrence that everyone would seek revenge, for that is what it would be, in the dreadful scenario you put forward.
A man is born to a virgin mother, lives, dies, comes alive again and then disappears into the clouds to become his Dad. How likely is that?