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Guys.....isn't this going a bit too far?
RE: Guys.....isn't this going a bit too far?
(January 22, 2017 at 1:49 am)Moros Synackaon Wrote:
(January 21, 2017 at 10:49 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Yep. For liking science so much, science seems to fly out the window when abortion is the topic.

I know!

There's these people on the forum who can't differentiate between a functional neural network and a lump of cells. If it can't bootstrap because it's not done developing, then it's of little value when weighed against pre-existing human life.

No capability to form a mind (why we interact and care for infants) even with technological assistance (what we do in cases of infants being underdeveloped), then its not human.

Most anacephalic infants (no cerebrum) barely last a few hours, have no capability to develop a mind and are a perfect case example of "something that should've been aborted when it became detectable".


(January 21, 2017 at 10:39 pm)Tiberius Wrote: The whole "clump of cells" and "potential life" arguments never convince me either. Those cells have distinct human DNA, and are very much alive.

HeLa cells are human DNA.

They're also a cancer.

Viability, in the case of an human organism having the abiltity to form a coherent living mind at least at the level of extreme intellectual impairment, seems like a bare minimum. So looking at that, cell masses that do not have complex neural structures are fair game. Which is already the vast majority of abortions right there.

Missing vital structures like the cerebrum also qualifies as not a human. Things like that often comprise late term abortions. Then there are cases where the rest of the body is too damaged or undeveloped to salvage - some people bear them anyways only to watch them suffer, fade and die. How humane... but I guess it wasn't aborted.

Unless you have a purpose for human cattle, I would think that the late term abortions are more often catastrophes than not. And the early ones simply have no mind.

You know, executor, this lump of cells is drawing energy from those that somehow conceived it. It was wanted. I can't ever be responsible for anothers body. Priority is keeping that tiny human safe. Don't ask me how I did it.

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RE: Guys.....isn't this going a bit too far? - by Amarok - January 21, 2017 at 1:26 pm
RE: Guys.....isn't this going a bit too far? - by Chad32 - January 21, 2017 at 1:28 pm
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RE: Guys.....isn't this going a bit too far? - by Amarok - January 21, 2017 at 1:47 pm
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RE: Guys.....isn't this going a bit too far? - by Divinity - January 21, 2017 at 1:56 pm
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