RE: Why free will probably does not exist, and why we should stop treating people -
February 8, 2017 at 4:24 pm
(This post was last modified: February 8, 2017 at 4:26 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(February 8, 2017 at 4:19 pm)Aroura Wrote: He's not arguing that it does, if you read what he typed.That -is- how we "punish" people who've done dangerous things. By locking them up.......
However, locking up someone who caused harm and is dangerous =/= punishing someone who caused harm and is dangerous, and people need to stop conflating these 2 as if they were tied in any meaningful way. :p
Quote:I don't think anyone is arguing that we should stop keeping the public safe. What we are arguing is that prevention and rehabilitation should be focused on, instead of punishment.I've argued the same many times...and I like to sweeten the pot by explaining to people who think free will is a requirement that very little, if anything at all, would have to change as regards our justice system in order to do so.
Quote:Punishing a machine for doing what it is programmed to do is pointless and cruel, no different from people. It is better to try and fix the program. If the program cannot be fixed, then yeah, you need to prevent it from causing more harm, probably with incarceration, but more humane incarceration than what we currently employ.Well, we program (and construct) our machines for a range of acceptable use and functions..and when they malfunction we discard them or reprogram them. If you wanted to make the analogy hold to people.......
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