(March 2, 2017 at 3:14 pm)Khemikal Wrote:If mores were built into the universe by a creator God, i.e. were for that reason objective absolute, then they would be laws, like gravity or the atomic forces. They would determine how things behaved, rather than being a general set of "self help" bits of advice for good living. So what could mores interact WITH, or have any effect ON? Certainly, while acting immorally can have bad results on a person's character or the outcome of one's life, this is not nearly reliable enough to say they are objective absolute. So I'd say if mores matter in a non-arbitrary way, there must be some real object which they govern and with which they interact. Of course, I don't believe any of this to be true-- I think mores are a social construct, and have no reliable connection to anything.Quote:This would imply that there really is a soul, and that somehow our behaviors and thoughts really had a predictable effect on how the soul develops.Wait, lol....what? That's a hell of a jump. Nothing about the above implies this...not even remotely. You must have some other thing in mind that you didn't communicate. Wouldn't natural law satisfy objectivity even in the case of human behavior and thought?
I can think of a way of viewing our species in which morality is objective. If you take the normal interactions of the species, and realize that the ideas we have are limited and informed by our instincts, then even though moral systems are composed of ideas, you could still view the foundation of our morality as supervening on genetic impulses beyond our awareness or control. For example, all mammal love their offspring (on average), and will act to protect them. When they are developing in a new social climate, one of the first things they will do is make a "don't fucking kill my kids" rule. That these manifest in different rule sets doesn't mean that they aren't founded in objective human truths.
But I don't think you could call the latter "absolute" morality.
