RE: Why doesn't hell in Islam and Christianity have Cold as torture?
April 2, 2017 at 12:39 pm
(This post was last modified: April 2, 2017 at 12:44 pm by Mystic.)
(April 2, 2017 at 12:32 pm)Brian37 Wrote: I am nobody's "servant". I am entitled to think for myself. Please for just one second, can you take that hand out of your back and do the same? I think it is vile to think of myself as only being here to obey. In free open societies we CONSENT and cooperate, we don't have to merely obey.
If you want to call yourself a "servant" you are only speaking for yourself, you don't get to project your personal desires on me.
You are entitled to think for yourself and I think God in a book from him would encourage that and encourage humans to reflect and it be a primary purpose of his revelation. But when you think for yourself, you learn from all sorts of people and reflect on what they say, why then not give a chance for God to speak to humanity and you being one who listens to what he has to say and reflect on that as well. Perhaps the things he makes you reflect about and the way to reflect, will help you in your goal to think for yourself in ways you never thought possible. If things seem confusing, why not seek council in sayings that interpret the book from it's guardians and appointed leaders? If that is confusing, why not seek council from different believers.
Why think and reflect on what everyone says and read different books, and not give chance for God to extend a rope from him in form of a book from him and humans who are guardians of it's interpretation (the Successors of the founding Captain)?
(April 2, 2017 at 12:35 pm)chimp3 Wrote: The sadistic bastards who promoted the idea of Hell had fire available to torture heathens and heretics with. Burning people was a very effective way to enforce the vision of hellfire. Just a taste now before an eternity of it.
Actions all have goals. Goals are motivated by an over-arching purpose. Disbelief in Quran is simply belief in Satanic eyes and falsehood magic saying you are everything and everything else is nothing, and making idols for that mother of all idols (the false you). All evil actions stem from that disbelief of God and who we truly are, and the tree of light by which we are connected to God.
Actions have intentions. Intentions of goals. Goals are related to our beliefs. If love knows God exists, then how evil is rebellion towards him.
