"Cultural Appropriation"

[The Grand Nudger]

Is the internet the statehouse or the shithouse?  The seat of power, or the throne of crazy?

That doesn't matter. I wasn't commenting on the statehouse. When I say far left, I mean far left. I don't mean far left politicians only, though there are a fair share of stupids there too.

I think it does.  I don;t think that pointing a loon delivers on the promise of a "new leftist fascism".  I think it delivers a loon.  For us to be having anything even remotely resembling a grown up conversation about where fascism is and isn't we have to refer to the mainstream, or to the statehouse.  

Find me some good ole fascism from the american left?  Find me someone on the left who is espousing a far right authoritarian nationalism?

No, they aren't. Fascism is a form of government. Socialism is a philosophy that fits perfectly with fascism in the right circumstances, which have arisen multiple times in human history.

Take it up with the people who made the cross.  Socialism and fascism both share authoritarian tendencies - to say that fascism, thusly, "fits" with socialism is to say nothing of note while counting the hits, ignoring the misses, and reducing both words to meaninglessness.  Far left and far right authoritarianism are distinct....just like dogs and cats are distinct, even though they both have fur. 

I'll give that fascism is generally used to describe the right wing, but, again, the far left is indistinguishable from the far right, and thus makes leaps into fascism. I've never suggested you are either.

The usual suspects whining about cultural appropriation repeatedly imply or outright state that I am part of the new leftist facism because I call them bigots when they say bigoted shit.  I know that you don't..just trying to bring you up to speed on all that nuance.  That the authoritarian right and the authoritarian left can be indistinguishable is not an idicator of them both being fascist.  Those on the far authoritatian left..are authoritarian socialists.  Now, we can say that they sometimes do or says similar things.  Sure.  

But whose far authoritarian wing is currently in the statehouse, and who is currently referring to crazy shit random internet people say as though it were indicative of fascism on "the other side" as silly as that is on it;s face - we all get what they;re trying to say, I think?  

That's stealing actual wealth, bruh. It's just fucking stealing. Wearing a headdress from a different culture that you purchase is cultural appropriation, but it isn't fucking stealing.

Yes, some people think it's actually stealing..bruh.  Other people think it didn't happen™, or was a good thing)™.  No, wearing a headdress -isn't- cultural appropriation.  I don't know why I have to keep responding to things that aren't cultural appropriation as though they were, or as though I claimed they were?  That's part of the endless litany of batshit usual responses used to deny the reality or shittiness of cultural appropriation and bury it under a mountain of irrelevance.  

"We" didn't do anything. I'm not 250 years old. If you have a cause of dehumanization and repression, fine. I don't. I just like the things I like.

Oh good god Shell.  OFC you aren't 250 years old (though..it's still happening right now.....so.....?)..and I already addressed that exact sentiment...but you are a successor member of the culture which did the deed.  That cannot be changed by saying "Well, I didn't do it".  No, you didn't, but it was done, and it was a bad thing. 

No one is sticking their heads in the sand about shitty events that took place in history here. They're saying that A. not all cultural appropriation has a history of rape and pillaging, so chill and B. people have every right to enjoy parts of any culture available to them. Multiculturalism is good, so chill.

Shell, the usual suspects are very much sticking their heads in the and about thisa.  Not just here, on the internet, in crazy land..but also in the statehouse.  Still doing genteel racism, still supporting cultural appropriation while pretending that it didn't happen, and was a good thing, and all these liberals are fascists for pointing it out.

That..is what this entire thread...has been about.

Is that happening right now? No? So, it doesn't apply to us right now. When I listen to African music, I'm not doing anything wrong, and people who try to shame me for culturally appropriating can go suck a syphilitic dick.

Yes, it is happening right now..and very poigniently sao for the american fascists..... and you're still framing it as an us thing.  It's not.  It's not about us - you and me.  It's about what happened to other cultures when our forefathers saw fiot to do what they saw fit to do.  No, you're not doing anything wrong by listening to african music..nor is it cultural appropriation, and anyone who trieds to shame you is an idiot.  

However, once you stop -just- listening to african music..and argue that cultural appropriation didn't happen, or was a good thing, or support or defend it then or here and now..you are no longer just listening to african music..and probably should be ashamed.  This, is when the bigot word comes out.  It probably doesn't apply to you.  It absolutely does apply to the bigots of american fascism..who very much wish to be able to do genteel racism, who's only response to their bigotry is to insist that someone is bigoted against them at least as hard..so, it's gotta be 'kay.