The undeniable miracle at Fatima

[pabsta]

So far I've yet to see anyone disprove what has been presented. Instead I'm just reading "I refuse to believe" against thousands of testimonials from people who didn't know each other.

I don’t think it is a refusal to believe; rather, IMO, it is more like wanting to think freely and openly.  IMO, for some people who choose not to interpret reality through a theistic lens, an important question to ask, especially as it pertains to miracles, is whether belief is a necessary pre-condition in order to observe these miracles.  In other words, can people of all particular mindsets objectively arrive at the truth of these miracles via methods that do not rely on any pre-existing biases? Thus, is it possible to verify a particular religious truth via an approach that is independent/outside of that particular belief system or religion/theism in general? 

The event we are discussing has NOTHING to do with looking at something "through a theistic lens". It has to do with the sun doing something that it has never been seen to do before or since, and a human being predicting the exact time and location months ahead of time. That, in itself, has nothing to do with religion. The antireligious newspapers the following day agreed it happened. Thousands of eyewitnesses agreed it happened. So far, again, this has nothing to do with religion. It's the cowardly atheist who looks at all of this, notices that the conclusion shows the event can only be of supernatural origin, and then simply shakes his head and dismisses it all because "he won't go there". Cowardly is all I can say.

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While we're at it, we might as well pick a few random events in history that have plenty of testimonials, and deny those too. Boston tea party? Sounds fishy to me,

A group of men dumping tea in a river to protest a tax . Compared to the idea the sun was moved in the sky by magic etc . These don't even compare .

Abe Lincoln's assassination? I don't believe it could have happened that way

That a man can sneak up and kill another man happens all the time. Compared to the sun being moved in the sky by magic etc.These don't even compare

You're missing the point! I'm not comparing the events. I'm simply saying that history is handed down to us from people who came before us. We didn't know those people, and we didn't see any the events with our own eyes, yet we generally accept what they hand down to us and it winds up in our history books. Atheists are hypocritical because they accept some history if it sounds good to them, and reject other history if it doesn't make them comfortable. It's absurdity, especially when thousands of people said it happened.